Best bulk liquid gun cleaning solvent

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I have several rifles and such that need deep scrubbing in their barrels. For instance a Mosin that has shot corrosive ammo and needs a really good cleaning. I am thinking of plugging the barrels with cloth or rubber and putting them vertical and pouring a solvent in them to let the barrels soak.

1) Good plan?
2) Seems I'll need a bulk liquid (not just small bottles or sprays). Any thoughts? I have a Walmart locally or can internet order.
 
Kerosene. Get a couple of gallons, pour in 5 gallon plastic bucket. Will last for a very long time, not nearly as flammable as most solvents. Works extremely well.

Steve
 
See if you can find some of the old US GI "Rifle Bore Cleaner" (RBC) in the metal cans. NOT BreakFree/CLP. It says "Rifle Bore Cleaner". That stuff will cut mercuric primer residue.
 
None of those do anything about copper fouling. Which is probably the primary reason a lot of barrels are "shot out." The stuff builds up to the point where accuracy goes way south.

My favorite rifle solvent is Butch's Bore Shine. Butch was actually a shooter, and a pretty good one.
 
cleaning solvents

Everyone says try Eds Red the recipe is somewhere on the forum or you can google it. You can buy what you need to make it at Wal-mart.Good luck
 
Slip 2000 Carbon Killer...+1 for the GI Bore Cleaner, a local gun shop has it for $3.99 a can.
 
The recipe for Ed's Red:

1 part deoderized kerosene
1 part automatic transmission fluid (ATF-III)
1 part odorless mineral spirits
(optional) 1 part acetone
(optional) lanolin, 1 lb per gallon

The acetone is harmful to finishes and plastics, and not great for people. If you do include it, use plenty of ventilation and be careful where your cleaner ends up.

First mix the Kerosene and ATF. Pour some of that off into a small bottle to use as a light, general-purpose lube. Then finish mixing in the rest of the ingredients.
 
+1 for Ed's Red. I just use 3 quarts of oderless mineral spirits & 1 Quart tranny fluid. Should work great in a parts washer! Got to get me a 5 gallon bucket for dipping.
 
I'm a big fan of Ed's Red, but not for a copper fouled barrel.

I would think a few 15-20 minute soakings in any of the big name copper removers with a good bristle brushing in between each of the soaks would clean things up as well as it's going to get.
 
If you want a copper solvent, check out Montana X-Treme Copper Killer at www.midwayusa.com. They are not joking about using it in a well ventilated area. It reeks of ammonia. It works, though.
 
If you want to get rid of copper fouling, you're going to need commerical grade ammonia (or lots of time soaking barrels in the ammonia you can get at the hardware store).

Ed's Red is great for general cleaning-out-the-carbon-and-other-gunk. you can make a gallon for less then ~$20 (without the lanolin) and that'll last a long time. I made two gallons, one without lanolin (for cleaning) and one wihtout lanolin (for lube/storage). I also give away small bottles (think pepper sauce 4-6oz sizes) of it to family/friends when they ask about gun cleaning.
 
I'm fortunate enough to live in a place where the city provides an almost infinite supply of fluid for cleaning guns after shooting corrosive ammunition. In my home it's attached to every sink in the house. There's a twisty little gadget labeled "H" on the handle. I run the fluid down the barrel, for example, slosh around some dishwashing soap, then run some more of that "H" stuff through the barrel.

I wish I could remember the name of that "H" stuff. It and the dishwashing soap always worked, ever since time past. "Wawa"? Sounds something like that. "Wadder"? Darned if I can remember the name.
 
Holy **** you guys have that too? I have been living my entire life without ever meeting someone else who had water. I also have a strange idea that our entire earth is covered with the stuff, but who knew?

Alright ill stop being a jerk now. If you need to clean after shooting corrosive use hot soapy water, nothing works better. Then just do your regular cleaning to get the powder residue out.
 
Yeah but...

Self Service car washes were invented for cleaning guns.
You get to play with the neat trigger sprayer...

But the Sign folks goofed and instead of Gun Wash they put Car Wash on the sign and by the time the mistake was caught, all these cars were using the Gun Wash places.

Now you know...

*wink*
 
I have done some shooting w/ a CZ52 and corrosive ammo. Regular cleaning consists of hot soapy water wash with a hot water rinse. Sometimes I throw the barrel in the oven for a couple minutes if the water does not evaporate. Then I just use a little CLP and call it a day.
 
"Water!" That's the word I couldn't remember. Thanks, guys.

In olden times we used that stuff to clean guns because we weren't smart enough to buy the more expensive stuff. We'd even fill a bucket with wawwa ... uh, water ... and soap, dunk the gun, then scrub it as needed, and rinse it off in more of that wadder ... uh, water. Hot waw ... wad ... oh, darn, water is better than cold. It dissolves yuckies faster and the parts dry faster when removed from it. Then we'd lubricate everything with earl ... oriole ... darn, I've forgotten again. At any rate, we'd use that stuff and the gun would be good to go.

Way, way back in the dark ages when there was only corrosive ammo and there was a battle--like in a war--no one would fight unless there were taps marked "H" on the battlefield. That's why we lost both World War I and World War II and why everyone in the U.S. speaks German and/or Japanese today. The Axis (Germany, Italy, and Japan) weren't so particular about gun cleaning so they won the wars.

Steve is right about the car washes but wrong about the signs. I've never been able to correct Steve before about anything because he knows more than I do. For that reason I leap on this opportunity.

It is true that many people seem to think that a "Car Wash" is intended for washing automobiles, but if that was their purpose they would be labelled "Automobile Wash," so it's obviously not so.

Gun people know that the word "Car" in those signs refers to collapsible AR stocks: all of those places were built so that people could clean rifles in them. Of course you're not restricted to washing AR-15s with CAR stocks in a "Car Wash." It's just a handy way to refer to them. Now if only people would stop cluttering them up with vehicles the world would be a better place. I hope that Steve doesn't mind this correction. I know a great many things, a few of which are true.
 
Robert Hairless,

pssst, I got an idea,
We can put this water in a really neat container, Coyote Brown with Operator in the name and get the jump on folks when "tactical" is old school and "operator" the kewl school.

Dehydrated water can be the Ultimate Operator version.

Both non tox, no haz-mat in shipping ...

Whaddya think?

*grin*
 
Sell it as the best gun cleaner in the world? Bingo! You're onto something. We'll be rich! Rich! We could even have big swimming pools filled with the gun cleaner, which might keep you out of the CAR Washes.

And of course it would be non toxic, biodegradable, and let us not forget Green. It's from a renewable resource.
 
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