Best no-drill Scope mount for Ruger Super Blackhawk

Would you rather shorten the barrel, or keep it as it is?

  • Shorten the barrel

    Votes: 3 27.3%

  • Keep it as is

    Votes: 8 72.7%
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Heir Kommt Die Sonne

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I already know of the issue of recoil shaking the scope, that's why I'm requesting the best no drill mount. I've looked online already and I found two really good ones. Insomuch I think my question is already answered. However the next question becomes What's the best scope?
I'm thinking about something like this:
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Does anyone know the model of that scope?


My Ruger has a 10 inch barrel, and truth is that is too much for me to handle accurately. Sure I get good practice by holding it out (I can feel one of the muscles in my arms break each time I hold it for two minutes) but I fiqure that such long barrel has to be put to good use, or else there's no reason I shouldn't just have it shortened to a favorable 6 inches. And the reason I want a no-drill mount is because if I'm going to be doing any gunsmiting, I might as well shorten the barrel anyway. I just want something that's quick and easy, but can be removed later in case I do decide to leave the gun as is anyway. For right now I just want something that I can shoot at up to 200 yards satisfactory and be making good use of that long barrel.
Longer barrels don't necessarily make a gun more accurate, they give a gun more range. So that's why I want something that'll make it easier to see longer range with.

Should I use some kind of red dot optic? Battle range scope? I'm not looking for zooming ability, it's a revolver scope. It's supposed to be viewed in with your eyes at a distance but nevertheless gives you a decent upgraded view of what you're aiming at.
 
6-8 inches makes for a much easier to maneuver hunting gun.

My 41 mag Blackhawk is a 6.5 inch, which I think is about right.. But 7.5 wouldn't be too bad either.

I'm no help in the sights... I got mine specifically to keep me from shooting at longer ranges... 30+ years long range hunting, I was doing it long before it became popular like it is now... Then I got bored with it and got a handgun.

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IMHO once you scope a handgun they get pretty bulky.
Shortening the bbl isn't going to gain you much.
2X isn't a lot of mag, and that's good when learning to use an EER.
Leupold 2X EER is a nice little scope.
 
You cannot do better than Jack Weigand’s mounts for scopes on revolvers. And I recommend a Bushnell TRS-25 tubular red dot type optic. I have used that combination on a Single Six quite satisfactorily.
 
rpenmanparker, please show me what the TRS-25 looks like. The results on amazon show it as being really advanced and electronics everywhere, not quite the look I'm going for.
And is there any Leupold scope that can be mounted with a Jack Weigand mount?
 
Heir Kommt Die Sonne said:
rpenmanparker, please show me what the TRS-25 looks like. The results on amazon show it as being really advanced and electronics everywhere, not quite the look I'm going for.
And is there any Leupold scope that can be mounted with a Jack Weigand mount?
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The TRS-25 is a small tube type red dot. It has three knobs on it. One large one is the dot brightness control and battery case. The two small ones are caps that cover the up-down and left-right adjustment screws. It is about as simple as you can get and is only about 2+ inches long. Wiegand makes long rail mounts for revolvers and also minis. For a scope you would want a long one. For a red dot, a mini. Sorry I don’t have a picture of the TRS-25, but I’m sure what you are seeing on Amazon is correct. Is is just smaller and simpler than it looks. By the way (surprise, surprise) I have an extra one, hardly used, I could sell you for $35 delivered in the continental US. I have a Simmons Pro Hunter scope too that I would sell. 2-6x with 20 inch eye relief. Inexpensive but good. $100 delivered. Silver finish. Very lightly used. Rings included.
 
rpenmanparker, thanks for the description and Walkalong thanks for the photo.
I think I've settled on the Leupold m8-2x, I found some on Ebay.
rpenmanparker , if the Simmons pro hunter scope is anything like the Leupold, please post a picture of it .
 
Don't shorten it. Sell it. Probably worth enough to get a fine vintage 7 1/2" plus scope mount.
 
PapaG said:
Don't shorten it. Sell it. Probably worth enough to get a fine vintage 7 1/2" plus scope mount.
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The Hunter model 7.5 inch Rugers have cutouts for scope rings along the top of the barrel. That is why I have my scope and rings. I used them on a Single Six until I realized I could not stand the gun. Pretty, but annoying in the extreme. More than anything with a scope on it. Heavy as lead. And so front heavy that I couldn’t stand it. Sold the gun. Now I would love to unload the scope and rings.
 
PapaG, no I am not selling this gun.. and as rpenmanparker said, it would probably be too heavy if I got the hunter version.
I like the classic vintage look of my revolver as it is, I just wish there was a practical point to the long barrel aside from it being heavy to aim with. Ironically I just got done checking out the 'The gun you regret selling' thread.
And thanks rpenmanparker for the picture. I think I'll stick with a Leupold M8-2x scope. Just gotta start laying some money aside, all this expensive is gonna take me about a month to cover
 
Supposedly the front weight contributes to the gun pointing true on target, but it never seemed that way to me. OP let me just say, unless you are planning to shoot out past 50 yards, the red dot is a better choice. The scope is a heavy load and not needed closer up. If you do choose the scope, make sure it has the eye relief you need on a pistol.
 
I dislike the mini tube style reddots (TRS25 and similar) when arms outstretched (handguns).
On rifles closer to the eye they are tolerable.

Handguns, I like a reflex sight (awkward- take getting used to- presentation wise............view is nice).
Easier is to get a 30mm red dot sight (Aimpoint PRO or clone).
Had one on a .35 rem Contender, made shooting clays at 50 yards on the dirt bank offhand stupid easy.

On a hunting gun, of current production...........I'd have the mount bolted to the gun, drilled and tapped.
Do think EER scopes look OK on handguns, esp scopes w a bell at the front.
Think the 20mm front ones look "azz heavy" and screw up the lines, but that's just my opinion.
Had one on my 8" Ruger MK2

Sold them seperately.

Leupold doesn't make a 2X w front bell.
Took a while but scored a Bushnell Trophy (Japanese made).........for 50 bucks, mint.
Had one on another TC. Worked fine.

4X (Leupold EER) looks good but 4X on a deer rig is too much for me. On a .22 rf or range toy, sure.
Reddots don't look right on some guns, but dang if they don't make shooting easier.

Deer hunting, as goofy as they look...........I'm sold on RDS. 30mm tube.
That or run irons


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On the .223 Super 14.........the gun shot so accurate, the 3 MOA dor was too much. Think a 4X EER might be better on such.
.35 rem, the reddot was fine at 3 moa. I need to save my pennies for a real Aimpoint w 2 MOA
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Scopes............no batteries to fail.
No need to turn on/off.

PITA to learn to use. Many folks overscope.
If it's an eye deal, try to find an old Burris 1X.
If can't, start w a 2X.

On my Ruger auto, I used the bottom point of the duplex to pop clays on the 100 yard bank.
Was fun for a couple days then as usual, was a yawner.
That gun big enough............halfway to rifle IMHO.
Dumped it.

Think a 5 1/2" w reflex to maintain the handy aspect.
But those little Bearcats w adj sights..............what a dandy trapline rig.

Just can't get into scoping anything but a specialty pistol.
Tried............just not for me.

To save some time/money...........it'd be best to shoot various rigs scoped, see how you like em.
Hopefully some of your friends have the gear so you can get an idea of what you want before dropping the coin.

I took a Super Redhawk scoped (1-4X) and after 2 days yanked the scope.
Of course I shot my deer the 3rd day over 100 yards out.
Worked, but not according to plan LOL
 
I was going dove hunting and swung by a shop, saw the Leupold 2X w small mark on it. $90 out the door.
After I shot the Ruger a bit, I sold it, and got my $ back out of the scope.
Broke even on the gun too.
So my experiment cost me nuthin'.

Had a Great Eight years ago and hated the MK2 22/45 grip. Thought when I came across this one I could get a diff frame, and after handling the rig scoped decided I'd rather have a rifle and a smaller handgun, no play the inbetween game.

Two guns, instead of one. :)
 
My first handgun deer was with an old model SBH.
I've shot a few since then.
7.5" is pretty darn sweet.
I like the Dragoon frame too.
So all of that proly puts me in the minority.
Buddy has scoped Redhawk (blued).
W skinny factory grips the scope weight tames it.
Never liked the package though. Even w grip change.
Rather have SBH iron sighted.

Pops had a SRH 9.5" and I've been thinking one of those w a Burris Fastfire in a ring slot.
 
Hookeye said:
I dislike the mini tube style reddots (TRS25 and similar) when arms outstretched (handguns).
On rifles closer to the eye they are tolerable.

Handguns, I like a reflex sight (awkward- take getting used to- presentation wise............view is nice).
Easier is to get a 30mm red dot sight (Aimpoint PRO or clone).
Had one on a .35 rem Contender, made shooting clays at 50 yards on the dirt bank offhand stupid easy.

On a hunting gun, of current production...........I'd have the mount bolted to the gun, drilled and tapped.
Do think EER scopes look OK on handguns, esp scopes w a bell at the front.
Think the 20mm front ones look "azz heavy" and screw up the lines, but that's just my opinion.
Had one on my 8" Ruger MK2

Sold them seperately.

Leupold doesn't make a 2X w front bell.
Took a while but scored a Bushnell Trophy (Japanese made).........for 50 bucks, mint.
Had one on another TC. Worked fine.

4X (Leupold EER) looks good but 4X on a deer rig is too much for me. On a .22 rf or range toy, sure.
Reddots don't look right on some guns, but dang if they don't make shooting easier.

Deer hunting, as goofy as they look...........I'm sold on RDS. 30mm tube.
That or run irons


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On the .223 Super 14.........the gun shot so accurate, the 3 MOA dor was too much. Think a 4X EER might be better on such.
.35 rem, the reddot was fine at 3 moa. I need to save my pennies for a real Aimpoint w 2 MOA
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Good info. I do disagree with your take on tubular red dots for handguns. I barely can tell any difference from reflex, and I use more than one of each.
 
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Thanks Hookeye, great information.
I think I should really just go through with the shortening the barrel plan, it seems to be what I truly want. As for the scope, I might just get a scope anyway. So it'll be 6.5 inches with a scope on it; feels exactly right and about what I want.
The question is then, where do I go to have the barrel shortened?!?! I know I could do it myself, if I had a carbon steel saw, but I'd need to drill a new screw hole for the front site, and that's beyond my abilities.
 
Really, if you want to keep that gun and have barrel shortened, call Ruger. Just have them rebarrel it (you'll get your orig barrel back).

If you cut it at home, you'll need to clean up the face, crown it and solder on a new front sight.
The cheapest kit to recrown I've seen



Without proper tooling you're probably going to end up with a less than factory look, and devaluate the gun. I get "doing it yourself". But without proper tooling you'd best be an artist.

I had the best eyes and hands in a major corporation, did under the microscope work for a long while. Yes, I am a bad *ss.

And I wouldn't mess with it , unless I had some special tooling.
Just not worth the time or risk IMHO>
 
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