Best way into "three screw" "old vaquero"

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Kaylee

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Yeah, interesting trick.

What's the best way of getting into a stainless vaqeruo of the old model that can handle the "ruger only" owie loads BUT works like the old-timey click-clickety-click colts?

Have a regular two-screw welded and re-drilled for old model Blackhawk parts? Or something similar?

Thanks!

(and anyone have a 45 LC 5.5" stainless Vaq they're interested in selling for such surgery? :) )
 
A Power Custom hammer/trigger set will allow loading on half-cock, with the cylinder bores lining up on each click. It'll also radically improve the gun's feel. It's basically a bolt-in $175ish action job "and then some". And three clicks :).

http://www.powercustom.com/ - look under "revolvers" on the left edge.

Something else: they have Bisley hammers that are pre-shaved to fit non-Bisley grip frames. Normally, if you drop a Ruger Bisley hammer into any other grip frame you have to trim the back a lot.

What they don't have is SBH hammers set up slick like this.

I believe Alpha Precision is doing similar but it's a "send the gun in" proposition? The neat thing about the Power Custom option is you don't ship the gun. The hammer and trigger come preset to each other and drop in.
 
Kaylee:

You need to understand what all of this "click" suff is all about, and what each click means:

In a conventional Colt Single Action - or clone thereof:

Click #1 is the trigger dropping into the hammer's (ineffective) safety notch.

Click #2 is the trigger dropping into the hammer's half-cock notch, where the cylinder is no longer locked by the cylinder bolt, and can be rotated for loading or unloading.

Click #3 is the cylinder blot being released to that it can engage the next notch in the cylinder and lock it in alignment with the bore.

Click #4 is the triger dropping into the hammer's full-cock notch, at which point you can pull the trigger to fire the revolver.

A New Model Ruger Single Action (Vaqeruo, Blackhawk, Single Six, whatever) works somewhat the same, but the hammer doesn't normally have a safety or half-cock notch because it doesn't need them. For this reason you only hear 2 clicks - the cylinder bolt releasing, and the trigger dropping into the full-cock notch.

The conversion Jim mentioned adds a half-cock notch to the hammer (among other things) and in effect adds a click - so you have 3 three rather then 2.

Rugger got the message, because the current Vaq's are set up to have 3 clicks.

As a practical matter the number of clicks doesn't matter, except to folks like you that like the old time sound.

The clicks are sort of fun, but I've seen a lot of older Colt's, and a few new ones as well as clones, that have broken triggers and chipped notches on the hammer face. What happened was that the trigger "ticked" either the half-cock or safety notch as it fell when the trigger was pulled to fire the gun. This of course isn't a good thing. Bill Ruger eliminated all of the notches on the hammer face except for the full-cock one for a good reason.

One other thing relative to shooting extra-heavy loads. The Blackhawk frame is slightly stronger then the Vaq's because it has a heavier, square-section topstrap.
 
Thanks guys!

Fuff - yeah, I've been in the innards of SAA clones before. I don't mind losing the "click number one" but I can't stand the no-half-cock/offset cylinder thing. And well, there's just that the "old timey feel" like my Grandpa's ol' single six just feels better, which means I handle it more, which means I can actually shoot it well.

Truth be told, what'd be perfect is just an upscaled SAA with coil springs - I guess the original idea of the Blackhawk, eh? But failing that - is there any chance the new Vaq hammer/trigger bits fit in the old Vaq frame? Or is that conversion thing the only way?

Thanks!
 
You might check the USFA Rodeo and Jim Finch's (longhunter.com) "improvement". I think between the two you get all coil springs and refinements.

It would not give you Blackhawk strength, but it would be more authentic. Do you really want to shoot "owie" loads that badly?

I just went through some similar thinking. Now that I've got a Blackhawk in .45LC I'm rethinking even why I thought I wanted to shoot 300gr slugs at 1200fps. We'll see.

-- Sam
 
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