Best Way To Buy an M-1 Carbine?

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I know you said you really don’t want to do an online auction, but they are all over gun broker. If you can find some relatively close to you, then you could go check it out in person.

their may be a way to search by state with the advance search, some one who uses gun broker may be able to help more with that.
 
Bringing in all these broken toys from Ethiopia will probably make nice examples rise even farther if these African ones, with relatively high prices for such poor condition, become the new bottom line.

Agreed, they look rough and combine that with who brought them in and I would rather buy one on gunbroker and overpay a bit for a much nicer piece.
 
Oh I absolutely agree. I don't know if I posted it or not, but I had searched for a carbine for years and never bought one, primarily because I simply didn't have the budget and means for the market price back then. So about 10 years ago, I just wrote it off as an impossibility. (Much like I've written off a Model 12 trench gun.) In the last year or so, it's not longer an impossibility. However, the Biden factor may make it an impossibility. SO I'm not "just now" figuring this all out. I knew it. There just wasn't much I could do about it.
It took me until a couple of years ago to finally figure out I needed a Carbine. Up until then, I couldnt be bothered with them when they were a couple of hundred bucks and waited until they were going for close to a grand to figure it out. I was more wrapped up in the Garands and M14/M1A's to be bothered with them.

You truly dont know what you dont know. :)
 
Bringing in all these broken toys from Ethiopia will probably make nice examples rise even farther if these African ones, with relatively high prices for such poor condition, become the new bottom line.

I think you may be right. smh.

As a testament to how well we're tracked online. A video on Royal Tiger Import carbines popped up in my youtube feed. (link below) Bottom line: very rough condition metal. Wood is really dirty. Shoots 13" high at 100 yards with the rear sight pushed all the way down below the 100 yrd mark. $1100. smh

I'd rather pay more for a better specimen than to pay that much for a gun in such bad condition that I wouldn't otherwise want to own. And that may, again, price me out as in years past. (Am I now able to afford a good condition gun at 2000 prices only to find that I can only afford a beater gun at 2020 prices?)

 
Take a look to see the “warehouse” in Ethiopia where those guys found their M1 carbine inventory...

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how did Ethiopia wind up with so many mil-surps?They need to come back to mamma.As far as buying a M1 right now even commercial made ones are $400 to $500 more than last year, just another victim of the panic buying before Biden and team ban them....if they do. Expect to pay $1200 to $1300 for a Kahr Auto-Ordnance one now, I know because I have been wanting one but keep getting outbid last year a new one was $800.
 
how did Ethiopia wind up with so many mil-surps?

You might be surprised how much military aid we gave out, and to whom we gave it, in the early years of the Cold War-basically anyone who was trying to fend off socialism. I suspect there is still some amount of WWII mil-surp all over the globe. FDR wasn't kidding when he said America would be the "Arsenal of Democracy." We still are.

...even commercial made ones are $400 to $500 more than last year,
Just ran across a Universal (in an ugly custom monte carlo stock) for $600.

Expect to pay $1200 to $1300 for a Kahr Auto-Ordnance one now, I know because I have been wanting one but keep getting outbid last year a new one was $800.

$1200 was the seemingly market price for a decent, original carbine the last time I was in the market (2010). I'm not interested in a copy at any price.
 
You guys are cracking me up. What broken toys are you talking about? If one of my RTI Carbine's were cleaned up and put on an auction site, you'd never know the difference. They look like any other 75+ year old military firearm that has seen actual use in the field. You either want a carbine and you suck it up and pay the price, or you don't. Sooner than you think $1200 will have seemed relatively inexpensive. It wasn't that long ago when Swiss K-31's could be bought on sale at Big 5 stores for $99. Now even those with chewed up beech stocks are bringing 5x or 6x that much.

35W
 
At least the RTI M1 Carbines are intact and mostly original...

Two years ago I bought an Inland M1 from Gunbroker that someone in the distant past tried to make it into a 5.7 Johnson. Replacement barrel is a Winchester 77. 22. lr, that was soldered on, and fitted some how or other. Drilled and tapped for some kind of scope mount bracket, and stock cut weirdly. I guess I made good with only getting it for $300, but I was after the trigger pack and other USGI parts on it. I have little use for the remaining carbine, basically the barreled receiver. Its a real shame too, has a very nice polished purple hue finish on it. If you want a broken toy, I have a contestant for you. ;)
 
how did Ethiopia wind up with so many mil-surps?
Europe (and "the West") have been meddling in Ethiopia for more than a century.
Ethiopia was (and is) a nation of great resources, and in a reasonably strategic location. The rulers of Ethiopia knew this and bought some of the best weapons available--French, German, Czech, etc.
The Italians brought some of their own (and repurposed the extant arms).
Those opposed to the Italians brought their own arms, too.
When geopolitics shifted, so did the suppliers of arms in support of those shifts.
Ian tells it far better than I.

Now, the interesting thing--to this discussion--is that many of the Carbines were actually sent by France, who was disposing of arms they had been given, US arms aid was rather meager.

Now, recently, as in a couple of years ago, Ethiopia noticed that they had all these warehouses of ancient arms stacked like cordwood, and offered them up to the world for sale, as is. Enter RTI.

This is how the "milsurp world" occurred in the first place. Far away place has piles of old arms, and no longer wants to pay to store them. They get wholesaled, and importers flood the market with them. The flood brings low prices, until the flood ebbs. There are only so many places with giant warehouses of idle arms. And, they do burst forth--like when Nepal disposed of all of their surplus arms.
 
Forgotten Weapons has touched on it in some of his videos. Ethiopia has quite a past with weapons. I think he said something along the lines it was the only African Nation not to fall to European control during colonial expansion.
 
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