Black Bear Attack - Wash State.

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I heard on the news this A.M. - A guy on a mountain
bike with his dogs was attacked by a Black Bear. He said he
was following his dogs and heard them barking. He came around
a corner and was face to face with a Black Bear. THe bear
took a couple swipes at him and left. The man was able to get
back to his car with his dogs. This was in Kitsap county on the
west side of Wash. St. He is in the hospital in serious condition.
Authorities are on the hunt for the bear.
 
I think you likely have the title all wrong unless you mean by "Black Bear Attack" that the guy attacked the bear. Somehow, the dogs and bears came together. As for the bear taking a couple of swipes at the guy, that was obviously a defensive move on behalf of the bear as the biker was the aggressor who came charging in on the bear (as the bear would perceive it). Otherwise, the title should be Black Bear Self Defense Against Dogs and Human.
 
I can just see the BOLO alert:

Attention, we have a BOLO for a black bear...75 to 500 pounds, black fur, stumpy tail and four legs. :neener: Goes by the alias "Smokey". Suspected to be armed and dangerous.

Doc2005
 
On a serious note, I have heard perhaps 2 or 3 times where a bear attacked unprovoked. In those cases it was innocently passing between the sow and the cub(s) and in one case the bear was ill and had to be put down. In all of the years that I camped in a tent in northern Michigan (the UP), I never had issue with any bears. I know it can and does happen, but it's rare.
 
Bad info Doc: black bears can and do make predatory attacks on humans and otherwise. Painting them as friendly and timid is a diservice to those who may find themselves in bear country.

They may be statistically "rare" but occur frequently enough that kids in western NJ, are taught from kindergarten what to do in case of a bear attack.

Look at the stats for NJ alone: http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/bearq&a.htm

We know several families who were tallied under the "Home Entry" number last year. Those "rare" "non-agressive" bears are all killed on the spot by fish and game (Category 1 bears) as a matter of policy because they have lost their fear of humans.

When you look at the numbers as a whole, black bears are not just minding their own business. The alarming rise in the number of incidents is what made rabid liberal NJ re-institute the bear hunt.

(Smokey was a black bear btw)
 
This occurred less than 2 miles from my home. Further, this is the second black bear attack on a human in my area in less than a month. The first attack happened when a local woman and her husband went hunting during our limited two-week summer bear season for a nuisance bear -- she apparently wounded the bear, which then mauled her. Her husband shot the bear, the bear ran off, and then the husband drove his wife to the local military hospital. Possibly the same bear? Seattle KOMO-4 (ABC affiliate) news van was at the forest parking lot when I drove by today ... didn't catch the news.
 
I don't know if anyone's seen the bear kit that S&W sells nowadays. It comes with a 460, a first aid kit I believe, and a dvd on bear attacks...all in a nice case. I used to make fun of it, but now I'm thinking about what I'd do if I was him. From what I heard he pretty much landed right on top of it.
 
bear attacked unprovoked

Had an "unprovoked attack experience" once . . . either that, or the bear didn't like my cousin's snoring. The abridged version of the story says that my cousin didn't get hurt; he did need a bath & change of clothes; the bruin was dispatched after a fashion; I decided that a 44 Mag would no longer be my "bear insurance of choice."

It happens & some of the most brutal attacks on record were made by black bears and in many instances the victims were actually stalked. I hope the gentleman is okay.
 
Smokey is a Griz, isn't he?

Nope, he was a black bear. He is buried in Lincoln National Forest in New Mexico.
http://www.fs.fed.us/r9/wayne/facts/smokey_bear.html

Bad info Doc: black bears can and do make predatory attacks on humans and otherwise. Painting them as friendly and timid is a diservice to those who may find themselves in bear country.

They may be statistically "rare" but occur frequently enough that kids in western NJ, are taught from kindergarten what to do in case of a bear attack.

I don't know that Doc's info was bad, just his experience. As for occurring frequently enough that NJ kids are taught in kindergarden what to do in case of attack, the site's stats you cited indicated less than 1 attack per year on average.

When you look at the numbers as a whole, black bears are not just minding their own business. The alarming rise in the number of incidents is what made rabid liberal NJ re-institute the bear hunt.

I am not sure what alarming rise you are talking about. The stats from the site you cited actually shows a declining trend overall.

We know several families who were tallied under the "Home Entry" number last year. Those "rare" "non-agressive" bears are all killed on the spot by fish and game (Category 1 bears) as a matter of policy because they have lost their fear of humans.

Actually, bears don't instinctively fear humans. This is a misudnerstanding of their behavior. They do tend to avoid contact most of the time, but they also tend to avoid contact with a variety of animals...most of the time.

It isn't that bears lose their fear of humans, but that they become habituated to human presence and find that humans don't appear to be a direct threat. According to Stephen Hererro, this habituation is through proximity, feeding (people giving bears food), and availability of human garbage that attracts bears. Bears come to associate the presence of humans with lots of free food, humans that usually don't do anything to the bears.

As Hererro noted in his first book on bear attacks, bears may prey upon humans for food, but the vast majority of the "attacks" are defensive in nature where the humans have done something threatening to the bears such as coming between a sow and her cubs, coming between a bear and its kill, startling the bear (Hererro calls 'sudden encounter'), etc., things that the bear perceives as threatening. The cyclist in the news account had that sort of sudden encounter that no doubt was exacerbated by the dogs doing what dogs do, harassing the bear. By the time the cyclist turned the corner and encountered the bear, the bear would have already been agitated and threatened.

It happens & some of the most brutal attacks on record were made by black bears and in many instances the victims were actually stalked.

Right. Stalking by bears is usually associated with predation for food. It is rare, but happens. In fact, such behavior is very rare compared to all other types of bear "attacks."
 
I camp in the bear woods often and alone, no matter how heavy is my pack, I always find room to take my "Bear kit".

It consists of a perimeter alarm (with a trip cord and screaming siren) and an additional driveway alert gizmo (An infrared motion sensor that sound an alarm).
That is the "early warning part", for defense I have a Colt Anaconda .44 Magnum and a Borealis 1050 lumens flashlight.
The light will blind the bear (it is 1050 lumens) giving me enough time to shoot with precision.

Not to go groping around in the dark for my gun and light, I have a one AA LED light (about 5 lumens) going on the whole night hanging from the ceiling of my tent.

I have had some experiences with bears around my tent in the past, so I consider my precautions not too extreme.

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All the best
Black Bear
 
I am not sure what alarming rise you are talking about. The stats from the site you cited actually shows a declining trend overall.

I wasn't clear and the numbers don't go back far enough. I believe the last bear hunt was in 2000 or 2001. The "alarming rise" occurred before that and led up to fish and game ok'ing the bear hunt. Numbers are down since then but from the activity I see, they are going to take another turn for the worse unless we get another hunt soon.

"Speedy" our Governor is in the process of politicizing the fish and game commission; it's most likely the last hunt we'll see in a while (more votes in the "aren't the teddy bears cute" part of the state.)

As for occurring frequently enough that NJ kids are taught in kindergarden what to do in case of attack, the site's stats you cited indicated less than 1 attack per year on average.

It has been better since the hunt. The year before the hunt they were everywhere. We were ferrying the kids to the bus stop and its on my property. There were more than a few days where we had a busload of kids in the house waiting to get picked up because there were multiple bears screwing around in the street. Even in fenced yards you don't let little ones play by themselves.

I am seeing more of them again now . . . . and the smaller ones may go out of their way to avoid you. The big ones could care less. Earlier in the year I stumbled out of the house onto Grandpa - bigger than me, had to be 500lbs. Looked at me, made that shake of the head and the screw-off snorting sound they make and went on his way in no rush.

Beautiful animals. Beautiful dangerous animals.
 
On A Lighter Note

A man in rural Rusk County, Wisconsin wakes up one morning to find a bear on his roof. So he looks in the yellow pages and sure enough, there's an ad for "Bear Removers." He calls the number, and the bear remover says he'll be over in 30 minutes.

The bear remover arrives and gets out of his truck. He has a ladder, a baseball bat, a shotgun and a mean old pit bull.

"What are you going to do?" the homeowner asks. “I'm going to put this ladder up against the roof, and then I'm going to go up there and knock the bear off the roof with this baseball bat. When the bear falls off, the pit bull is trained to grab his testicles and not let go. The bear will then be subdued enough for me to put him in the cage in the back of the truck."

He hands the shotgun to the homeowner. "What's the shotgun for?" asks the homeowner. "If the bear knocks me off the roof, shoot the dog immediately."
 
Some years back, a compilation of data from wildlife agencies indicated that the rate of deaths from black bear attacks was greater than the rate from grizzly/brownie attacks.

This is rate, now; deaths per XXX attacks. Blacks apparently aren't prone to bluffing or false attacks as are the larger bears. When blacks do attack, it's either the mother/cub thing or an actual effort for food--and thus more likely to result in serious injury or death.

Art
 
Every now and again, a black bear turns up on Vashon Island in Puget Sound. They swim across the channel right by Old Dog's house. I have ridden my mountain bike in the very park in which the attack occurred. It never even crossed my mind to worry about bears, since this area is semi-rural. But then again, two weeks ago, Fish and Game were by my house in the Mill Creek area looking for a black bear, and this area is suburban.
 
AH yes the S & W Bear survival pack with the .460 SVR Just the thing when your airliner crashes on Kodiak Island.... the last item listed for the 'kit' is "Bear attacks in the 20th Century"

I like the kit they make for disaster BOB kit instead to get away from two legged critters.

I'll pass along the info to a couple I know who are building their retirement home on Vashon Island. Wifey likes the .357 Magnum
 
The first attack happened when a local woman and her husband went hunting during our limited two-week summer bear season for a nuisance bear -- she apparently wounded the bear, which then mauled her. Her husband shot the bear, the bear ran off,

i dont think i would really consider that an "attack" in a preadatory sense. thats like hunting cape buff and having one put his horn in your stomach after you just wounded it and say a cape buff will do that because they all have a bad attitude


that husband and wife combo hunting team need to either A) need to get a bigger gun/guns, or B) need to work on shot placement:rolleyes:
 
Right. If you shoot a bear and it then attempts to defend itself against you, then it did not attack you per se, not in the sense of it making the first move, no more so than a CCW person shooting a mugger after the mugger has tried to kill the CCW person. We would never say the CCW person ATTACKED the mugger. We would say the CCW person acted in self defense.

In both of the cases above, the bears appear to be acting defensively and within their normal sorts of expected behaviors. The problems seem to be with how the humans behaved.

Similarly, there was this incident in Washington that is also called a "bear attack" only once again, the bear was being defensive.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=196650&highlight=bear+hunter+attack+washington

The injured human was a hunter chasing the bear and the bear attempted to defend itself. Unfortunately for the bears in both the hunting examples, they failed to realize that the "bad guys" often travel in groups and did not take situational awareness into account and apparently were caught off guard by the second hunters in each case who subsequent killed them. This is a problem that happens to some cops and CCW people as well.
 
We have a vacation place in the mountains......I have read a book written by a guy who has interviewed many bear attack victims......According to him, attacks are rare, but that is no consolation if you are the victim. The majority of the attacks he documents involve Grizzlies. But some were black bears. He highly recommends bear pepper spray. I bought some from UDAP which is a company founded by a bear attack survivor.

I recently had my first bear encounter but I didn't have it with me. I was not too concerned under the circumstances involved. Looking back though, it may have been prudent to have it just as insurance.

We heard from a local that if we wanted to see a bear just go behind the local cafe about 9pm as there is a bear who dives the dumpster nightly. Reportedly a timid bear as they chase him away when they hear him in the garbage.

My wife really wanted to see a bear so we drove our Explorer down there at nine and parked in the dark in the back. We scanned around with a night vision scope and saw no trace. Nevertheless we were stubborn. After 2 hours of sitting there we decided we got skunked.

Just as I was about to start the car, I caught something in the dark out of the corner of my eye. It was a big a** bear moseying along real slow and silent about ten feet from our car headed toward the dumpster. It was bigger than I expected a black bear to be. I guess he is well fed.

He arrived at the dumpster, placed a paw on the side of it, and effortlessly shoved it about 4 ft. and half turned it to get to the lid( He had the routine down pat it appeared.) He was about 30-40ft in front of us. I turned on the headlights for a better look. He didn't even flinch. He had his back to us and was standing up. It looked like he was slowly sorting the garbage.

At this point, another car started to come in from our left. I signaled them with my hand to stop for fear they would spook him off. They stopped. I snapped a couple of photos of the dumpster diver and then hand signaled the car to proceed.

They proceeded a little faster than I expected which startled the bear. He dropped down out of the dumpster and turned to face us and the other car which was still moving, albeit slower. The bear's back was to the restaurant and I sensed that he was not sure what he should do.

At this point he did a couple things that I believe the book I read said is not what you want to see. He lowered his head and slowly swung it from side to side and he had his mouth open. I started the car and put it in gear just in case I needed to make a hasty exit. The other car at this point stopped. The bear at this point decided to leave. He turned and started walking up the side of the restaurant towards the front (where the bar patrons were hanging out on the porch.) I remember when the bear turned to walk away he passed by two side-by-side 55gal drums which he totally eclipsed. He was a big boy.

We enjoyed the sighting, but are saddened by the fact that neither the restaurant nor the garbage company have done what is necessary to keep the bears out of the garbage. I got the very distinct impression from this encounter that this particular bear would prefer to leave than have a confrontation with a human, however, with his back to the wall, being startled at close quarters and/or feeling cornered without a clear escape route he appeared he would attack out of fear.

Unfortunately for the bear and whoever stumbles into him, it is probably just a matter of time before some drunk who has parked in the back comes stumbling back there in the dark and bumps into this poor creature and receives a very major ass whoopin.:(

Also, for what it's worth, based on what I read in that book and the size of the bear I saw, I would be hesitant to employ a handgun at close range for defense. Although the shot might eventually prove deadly to the bear, I'm not so sure he wouldn't dismantle me before biting the dust.

The other thing I like about the spray is that it not only spares the bear's life, but it also likely gives the bear a strong incentive to stay away from humans which is in the best interest of the bear and us humans.:)
 
boobap,

Isn't that how nuisance bears get started; losing there fear of humans?
 
The people must of seen the movie that the guy in Alaska made (the one who got killed) that bears are no threat. The bears are probably thinking I wonder what they taste like, deer or moose?
 
You are thinking of Timothy Treadwell. Boobaps pictures remind me of those of Yellowstone back from the early days through the 1960s when they did bear shows and people fed the bears. It turned out to be a really bad idea.
 
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