Vince Cyr
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OK. I've asked this before, but I probably wasn't as clear as I could have been, and I got some pretty vehement answers as a result. I'll try to outline my thoughts a little better. First off, I'll say that in NY, any centerfire is legal for big game, so my idea is at least legal here. Secondly, I'm not planning on doing this myself. I just want to get that out there. I can see this scenario happening, but I'm not planning on it .
I'll set the stage. You are out hunting deer with a .223, which is as stated, legal, and as long as the ammo is appropriate, suitable for game that size. You never see a deer, but you do see a bear. Now, when you get a big game licence in NY, you automatically get a bear tag as well as however many deer tags you get, and bear season is open pretty much when deer season is. So you have a legal means, and legal opportunity. What I don't know is whether you should take the shot. I can see it being possible with the upper end of the .223 spectrum, and a smaller bear(around 200# or so), I just am not sure if it is advisable. This guy uses the 70gn TSX (http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?94628-223-Barnes-70-Grain-TSX-Performance/&page=1) on hogs pretty extensively, with a lot of success. He even has a few in 425# weight class, and a big pig is at least as tough as a bear, right?(I don't have any experience hunting either, so I'm not certain). Now, I probably wouldn't take the shot with most of the 60-64gn ammo recommended for deer, but like I said, think the heavier pills in the 70 gn and up range should work(emphasis on should. This is all hypothetical). So, with a heavy bullet, and all the requirements of shot placement and range reduction are met, would it be an advisable shot? I know it wouldn't be an ideal situation, far from it, I just was wondering if it could be doable.
I'll set the stage. You are out hunting deer with a .223, which is as stated, legal, and as long as the ammo is appropriate, suitable for game that size. You never see a deer, but you do see a bear. Now, when you get a big game licence in NY, you automatically get a bear tag as well as however many deer tags you get, and bear season is open pretty much when deer season is. So you have a legal means, and legal opportunity. What I don't know is whether you should take the shot. I can see it being possible with the upper end of the .223 spectrum, and a smaller bear(around 200# or so), I just am not sure if it is advisable. This guy uses the 70gn TSX (http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?94628-223-Barnes-70-Grain-TSX-Performance/&page=1) on hogs pretty extensively, with a lot of success. He even has a few in 425# weight class, and a big pig is at least as tough as a bear, right?(I don't have any experience hunting either, so I'm not certain). Now, I probably wouldn't take the shot with most of the 60-64gn ammo recommended for deer, but like I said, think the heavier pills in the 70 gn and up range should work(emphasis on should. This is all hypothetical). So, with a heavy bullet, and all the requirements of shot placement and range reduction are met, would it be an advisable shot? I know it wouldn't be an ideal situation, far from it, I just was wondering if it could be doable.