Bolt action shotgun

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Thats pretty close country, isn't it? I mean woods or swamp?
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Woods,swamps,pine thickets,honeysuckle/cudzu patches,you name it. Power cuts or soybean fields offer about the only longer shot opportunities. The longest shot/kill I've ever made/taken was 80 yards.
 
I know a lot about fishing---and almost nothing about hunting. Any way to knock off a Texan/ Floridian pig/deer on a hunt and get someone else to dress it for you? Seems like it involves a whole lotta work and grossiness........:rolleyes:
 
To give a serious answer to the question, the reason you see people talking about using 10/12 gague guns for geese is because those shells hold more shot of any size. More shot means thicker patterns. Thicker patterns mean longer ranges (all other things being equal). It's logical that 1 1/2 oz of shot will hold a killing pattern farther than 1 oz will. Two ozs farther than 1 1/2.

Now the .410 is far from an ideal choice for deer hunting, but can, and has been done often. A lot of times it's the only choice for a small child who can't handle a bigger gun for example. Or it may well be the only gun a person has. A slug load is about the same size and power as a 45 Colt pistol I suppose. Not a powerhouse, but usuable within it's range limitations with careful shooting.
 
This here is a true bolt action deer gun.
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Mossberg 695 12 guage rifled slug gun.
It is very accurate to 200 meters with Winchester Platinum Tip Sabot slugs, Partition Gold sabots not so accurate mainly because the recoil will give the shooter a nosebleed and the last deer I killed with this gun fell to plain old Wolf slug loads. All loads are 2 3/4" as I have yet to see where the increased recoil of the 3" loads do anything other than increase the recoil.
My kid has this one now and I am currently shooting a Mossberg 500 pump 12 guage with a 24" rifled with a cantilevered scope mount.
 
Jimmyray in our day slugs were so you could use your shotgun for more things. Now they build them just for slugs. I'd hate to shoot a quail with that. But its a really nice looking gun.
 
These guns with fully rifled barrels shooting sabots that are accurate to 200+ yards are sure blurring the line between shotguns and rifles. I thought the definition originally was smoothbore = shotgun and rifled barrel = rifle.
 
I heard that Bud.
I have often wondered how that was allowed in these shotgun only areas.
It's a shotgun in name only at that point.
Perhaps that's the point it gets by as legal.
 
Yeah, in-o-vation is a wonderful thing. But, I have enough trying to decide what rifle I want to use.
 
Bud Tugly said:
These guns with fully rifled barrels shooting sabots that are accurate to 200+ yards are sure blurring the line between shotguns and rifles. I thought the definition originally was smoothbore = shotgun and rifled barrel = rifle.
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I spoze it has to do with the original shotgun action handling 12 gauge 2-3/4 or 3-inch shot shells. But when does a 12-gauge rifled shotgun become a .75 caliber rifle?
 
When does a 12 guage shotgun become a .75 caliber rifle?
When it becomes specialized for a specific purpose.
I also have a 12 guage smoothbore bolt Mossberg & a .410 bolt Mossberg as well.
As squirrel guns during early to mid season when the leaves are still on the trees they are have few equals & I actually prefer them to a pump gun.:)
 
This thread inspired me to start searching yet again for a reasonably clean bolt action Mossberg 385 20 gauge.
Most gun shows and pawn shops in which I have come across that had one of these shotguns were usually in rough condition plus.
So anyway since this thread got started I went on the hunt for another model 385.
The main reason for this was the sentimental value that this particular shotgun had in common with me as it just happened to be the first gun I bought with my own hard earned money and at a legal age for me to do at the very fresh young age of 20 in 1973.
This shotgun was stolen from me along with another first for myself purchased deer rifle,which was bought in 1975, a Remington BDL 700 in .270 caliber, in a home burglary in August of 1985.
And even though several thousands of dollars of things were stolen from me that infamous Sunday those two particular guns stuck in my crawl more than anything else taken from me.
Anyway I found what I consider a good substitute for my old squirrel killing Mossberg of yester year and bought this little honey on a GunBroker bid just a minutes ago.
Check out GB #235400730 for pictures if you want.
I am no computer guy so you will have to key all of that in on your own to see pictures of it.
I cant wait to get it and thanks to everyone including the original poster that got me up and going in my search for this simple utilitarian shotgun.
 
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REDCENT there is a Remo 16ga mauser bolt action on gun broker, just like the one I had. they say 16, but looks like 12
 
While some of the converted bolt action Mausers can be quite good, others can be downright dangerous.
The locking lugs have been ground down or even ground off the bolt heads to accomodate the head of a shotshell and the only thing locking the bolt is the bolt handle notch and maybe 1/8" of bolt head lug surface.
Done correctly, this is adequate for light shotshell loads, done poorly and,,,,
Remeber also that many or most of these guns were originally barrelled and reamed for European 2" or 2.5" shells, not 2.75" American standard shells and were also proofed for very light 7/8 ounce to maximum 1 1/8 ounce loads.

Many were reamed to 2.75" here in the states but that does not make them safe for heavy field loads and especially not for steel shot loadings.

Keep this in mind before you consider buying one of these old guns as a shooter.
 
I had a Remo, 16ga, I never fired it, I wasn't sure of chamber length, and the bolt conversion was kinda scary.
 
only thing locking the bolt is the bolt handle notch and maybe 1/8" of bolt head lug surface.
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That is actually more locking than commecial bolt shotguns have,plus the Mauser shotguns still have the rear locking lug intact,a feature absent on commercial guns.
 
Wow...Surely that was not done at the factory to such a utility grade shotgun.
Probably done by or for some owner long since gone from this world would be my better guess.
It certainly took some time to do.
 
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