Boston gun buybacks announced.

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Just found this in today's Boston Globe, you have to resgister to view the article on their website. They're giving out $200 gift cards to Target as the article states, I'm disappointed that it's Target and not Wal Mart, but whatever. I can still use a couple things Target sells.

Gun buybacks a shot in the dark
By Joan Vennochi, Globe Columnist | June 1, 2006

THE SUN WAS bright and the air was rife with good intentions, not to mention hip-hop music imploring the 'hood to ``Start Peace."

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Sign up for: Globe Headlines e-mail | Breaking News Alerts Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino was announcing a gun-buyback program, under which people who turn in guns to police will receive $200 in Target gift cards. The goal is to cut street violence by reducing the number of guns on the streets.

I wanted to believe.

But as I scrawled notes during Tuesday's press conference at First Parish Church in Dorchester, a man standing nearby offered up this review: ``Good concept. It won't work." He declined to give his name, but said he did youth outreach work in the community. He doubted that many young people he knew would walk into a police station to turn in weapons.

Later in the day, the city recorded its 24th murder of 2006, when a gunman killed a man, execution-style, on Blue Hill Avenue. The victim got out of a gold Mercedes and put up his hands as if surrendering. But the gunman fired point-blank. Then, he fired one more time into the man now lying on the ground.

Does that sound like someone who is ready to give up his gun for a $200 gift card?

Research shows little drop in violence or shootings as a result of politically popular gun-buyback programs. More cities are relaunching them anyway. The theory is that one more gun off the streets is one less gun that can be used to shoot someone intentionally or accidentally.

``There is a tendency for researchers not to think highly of gun-buyback programs," said Chuck Wexler, executive director of the Washington-based Police Executive Research Forum. ``But today the thinking is, when you can get the community, the police, and the private sector to participate, it's not the panacea, but it's one way everybody can work together." These programs, Wexler said, promote ``shared responsibility for the gun issue," and that's worth something beyond raw crime statistics.

Menino is doing his best to confront the culture of violence that is overtaking some of Boston's mostly black neighborhoods. It makes the mayor ``a lonely wolf," as he described it, running solo while the rest of the pack of politicians ignores inner-city shootings and deaths.

``Everybody should be concerned," said Menino, who observes, correctly, that there is more concern in Washington and elsewhere ``about bird flu than there is about violence in the city."

The problem is that bird flu may prove easier to control than violence in the city.

Last month, Menino and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg cohosted a ``gun summit" attended by 13 other big-city mayors. They pledged to track illegal guns, launch a website to share information and antiviolence strategies, and put together a plan to lobby officials in Washington for stricter gun laws.

The gun-buyback program is a throwback to an effort last undertaken in Boston more than a decade ago. Between 1993 and 1996, 2,800 guns were turned in to police, in exchange for $50 in cash for each weapon.

This time, the incentive is a gift card rather than cash, which some people previously used to purchase newer, better guns. No identification is required of people who hand in guns, and they will not be charged with possession. However, the weapons will be turned over to the police crime lab and traced for connection to past shootings.

Guns can be turned in, no questions asked, at any Boston police station between June 12 and July 14, Monday through Friday from noon to 7 p.m. Certain churches and community centers throughout the city are also designated drop-off locations. A person who wants to turn in a gun can also call 1-888-GUNTIPS to arrange for a private exchange.

Christopher Sumner, who heads the Boston TenPoint Coalition, described the program as ``an appeal to the soul" around responsibility.

``It's a piece of the puzzle," said Deric Quest, a member of the hip-hop group Four Peace, which sang at the mayor's press conference.

I want to believe it will help. But the puzzle is very complicated. And responsibility -- a key piece of it -- must be taught from birth, nurtured, and valued over time. It rarely strikes as a revelation, despite the best of intentions, on the sunniest of days.

Joan Vennochi's e-mail address is [email protected].

© Copyright 2006 Globe Newspaper Company.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ed...s/2006/06/01/gun_buybacks_a_shot_in_the_dark/

That's the link to the article, you need to register to view it.
 
So, what does a Lorcin or a Jennings run around there?

You could make a killing off this deal!
 
I have a High Standard .22 autoloader, it's got no firing pin but the hammer still falls and therefore is considered functional and worth some money:D
 
"There is a tendency for researchers not to think highly of gun-buyback programs," said Chuck Wexler, executive director of the Washington-based Police Executive Research Forum.

Maybe researchers are on to something.

I can see it now: Anybody want to make a trade? I will give you four $200 Target gift cards for a Glock 17 with two hi-cap mags.
 
I wish they'd let us do a civillian gun buy back program.

heck I'd pay 50$ a gun all day long,

I saw some video of a toys for guns program here in LA,

Thrown on the pile of guns was a beautifull thompson, but they were focusing on the folding stock sks 'assult weapons' that were turned in.

once a year all guns police have seized are loaded up and taken to Fontana where they're melted down into rebar. :( broke my heart to see that thompson.
 
Do the folks in Boston honestly believe that criminals are going to turn in their guns for $200? :confused: If so - that certainly explains a lot...

I imagine that the folks turning in guns are old ladies getting rid of firearms the dear departed left behind or folks dumping their trash. I suppose that there's the occasional anti here or there that's seen the light and turns in his $1200 Les Baer :eek: but not many - no not many.
 
While the offer to get taxpayer money in such a scheme is interesting, Boston residents would be limited. If we are legal, state law requires us to register with the CHSRB (Criminal Histories Systems Records Board/Bureau (I forget which it's named)) and we're only allowed something like 4 transfers a year.

So there's no getting rich off this - unless we choose to make illegal transfers, or we purchase something of high value from someone who was going to turn it in for $200 (like buying a SAA at $250, were it available)
 
:eek:

Do you need to be a MA resident to participate? Otherwise yeah, I'm also thinking potmetal = $200 giftcard.

And I would recommend going to one of the churches, NOT the police stations. Police stations have cameras, likely keep record of them, and MA being MA...well...it wouldn't surprise me if you'd later get in trouble for having illegally carried a weapon or somesuch. I'd not put that kind of backstab past them.

And don't you need to sign your name on a Target giftcard to use it...?

Oh, yeah, and:
once a year all guns police have seized are loaded up and taken to Fontana where they're melted down into rebar. broke my heart to see that thompson.

They melt down the jennings and other junk. That Thompson is likely safely on some chief or city official's wall.
 
Manedwolf, you bring up an excellent point. I'm guessing the precincts also have cameras on the outsides of the buildings too, which means they can run your tag numbers.
 
The theory is that one more gun off the streets is one less gun that can be used to shoot someone intentionally or accidentally.

How many times have you read a story of someone who didn't get shot by some punk because his cheap POS gun that some friend of a friend had stolen jammed. All that turn up at these buy backs seem to be unserviceable junk guns with the occasional family heirloom that some senile bliss-ninny widow turned in. So morons pat themselves on the back for paying criminals $200 for fifty year old no-name top break revolvers with out of time cylinders and light hammer strikes (if they aren't rusted shut) :barf: now you can take that money and get a real gun.

they should rename these occasions crime weapon upgrade programs:neener:
 
Weapon Upgrade Programs! I love it! Now we just need the NRA to campaign it under that name ;D

``There is a tendency for researchers not to think highly of gun-buyback programs," said Chuck Wexler, executive director of the Washington-based Police Executive Research Forum. ``But today the thinking is, when you can get the community, the police, and the private sector to participate, it's not the panacea, but it's one way everybody can work together." These programs, Wexler said, promote ``shared responsibility for the gun issue," and that's worth something beyond raw crime statistics.

So what you're saying is, if we get the community, the police, and the private sector to all get together and burn $50,000 in a big bonfire, it doesn't matter that it's not doing anything about the gun problem, because it's showing "shared responsibility". Actual results need not apply.

I'd like to meet morons like that guy, so I can laugh at them in person.
 
They melt down the jennings and other junk. That Thompson is likely safely on some chief or city official's wall

no they actually melt em down here in california.

They used to take a chop saw to em. I didn't believe it untill I went to a metal salvage yard and pawed my way through two 50 gallon oil drums full of luger bits, python bits, high end over unders etc. spydaco's with the blades chopped off, greasguns, m2's and of course all manner of junk guns.

still, it was really sad to see the little bits of thousand dollar guns all chopped up.
 
Hahahahahahaha.. them do-gooder city folks, having all that extra cash just laying around, nothing to do with it. Not saying anything is just like agreeing.
 
Wow, I hope Bloomberg institutes the same program here in NY. I have a .22 and 12 gauge that I don't shoot anymore, and I've been eyeing a new gun. Figure if I turn in 2 guns, collect $400.00, buy the wife a nice piece of jewelry in Target, then I'm in the clear to buy my gun:D
 
I have a High Standard .22 autoloader, it's got no firing pin but the hammer still falls and therefore is considered functional and worth some money

Collector gun worth more than $200 in that condition more than likley.;)
 
Wow, I hope Bloomberg institutes the same program here in NY. I have a .22 and 12 gauge that I don't shoot anymore, and I've been eyeing a new gun. Figure if I turn in 2 guns, collect $400.00, buy the wife a nice piece of jewelry in Target, then I'm in the clear to buy my gun

Lol seems like your in the same boat im in, got to get her something every time I buy a new gun. Luckily for me this past time it was just a scope for her rifle to make my XD45 purchase ok in her eyes. :neener:
 
This "buyback" misnomer always grinds me. The city of Boston, the state of Mass, nor the Fed Gov. ever owned the firearms in the first place. From the manufacturer, the gun went to a dealer and finally to the comsumer. None of these Gov entities ever held title. They can not "buyback" something they never owned. And while you guys giggle about how your going to put it over on them with your junk tradeins. Have you considered that you're only screwing yourself? It's your tax dollars they're wasting. Sorry, end of rant. This issue just always grinds me. Ohlar
 
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