SharpsDressedMan
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Hmmm, I wonder if she unintentionally gets assaulted, accosted, attempted raped, etc, what she will do...................
Hacker15E said:In my experience, most anti-gun folks positions are a result of ignorance. Sometimes when those folks become educated or informed -- usually through a trip to the range and some education about firearms safety -- they change their tune significantly.
Generally true, but this woman appears to be incredibly determined to cling to ignorance.
Ms. Magazine said:Tony told me a Glock doesn’t have an external safety feature, so when I got home and opened the box and saw the magazine in the gun I freaked. I was too scared to try and eject it as thoughts flooded my mind of me accidentally shooting the gun and a bullet hitting my son in the house or rupturing the gas tank of my car, followed by an earth-shaking explosion. This was the first time my hands shook from the adrenaline surge and the first time I questioned the wisdom of this 30-day experiment.
I needed help.
Ms. Magazine said:The cop thought I was an idiot and suggested I take a class. But up to that point I’d done nothing wrong, nothing illegal.
So here I sit at Starbucks, and the irony couldn’t be thicker. On March 12, 2010, I was surrounded by big hairy men with guns on their hips
I'm looking for the payoff at the end when she realizes that it is just an object that did not cause her to go crazy, wasn't responsible for any mass shootings, and was not used against her by a criminal.
Wait a moment, Ms Magazine. She says she has a concealed weapon permit, for which she paid $56.50, which jives with her work in Idaho. In that case, she was required to demonstrate competence with the weapon, either thru taking a class, or being ex-military or law enforcement. (http://www.ag.idaho.gov/ - the attorney general's web site in ID.)
In another Ms Magazine article, it says her home is Washington State, as does http://gunvictimsaction.org/boards-of-directors/heidi-yewman-vancouver-washington/. The fee there is $52.50. If she made a simple typo, I'd accept it, but there's a waiting period in WA due to the background check (RCW 9.41.070).
Washington does not have reciprocity with Idaho so that's not an explanation of the discrepancy.
Hacker15E said:I'm looking for the payoff at the end when she realizes that it is just an object that did not cause her to go crazy, wasn't responsible for any mass shootings, and was not used against her by a criminal.
In my experience, most anti-gun folks positions are a result of ignorance. Sometimes when those folks become educated or informed -- usually through a trip to the range and some education about firearms safety -- they change their tune significantly.
Personally, I say good on her for going and buying it, regardless of her political motivations. She's exercising a Constitutional right, just like when people say things that we don't like or that offend us, or have a different faith than we do, etc.
Hacker15E said:Probably true -- but if any experience is going to impact her opinion, certainly owning a firearm and handling one is a significant first step.
It is an experience that could produce a different result than the "I would NEVER TOUCH A GUN!!! EVAR!!!!" people.
Either way, when this 30 days passes without catastrophe, even WITH her demonstrated ignorance, that goes a long way toward disproving the hypothesis/belief she is entering into this experiment with.
It leaves me to wonder how she deals with the monsters her children see in the closets at night.
Heck, if she don't mind, I've got $500 billion Zimbabwean dollars which I'd pay her.
I took the time to write MS magazine in the rebuttle section, and surprise surprise it was taken down. I guess when you use logic and common sense to defeat her arguements (sic) that are emotion based they dont like that.
SharpsDressedMan said:Hmmm, I wonder if she unintentionally gets assaulted, accosted, attempted raped, etc, what she will do...................
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I am not impressed.
The nature of a free society of adults is in part that putative adults understand that power comes with responsibility, and that failing in their responsibilities comes with consequences. A sub tenant of this is the understanding that adults do not need a parent, be it actual or the proxy of the state to tell them this and enforce the matter.
In her eagerness to make her political point that her state does not put itself into the role of parent and enforce the minutia of responsible behavior, the author has immediately failed the 4th of her rules: ” be prepared to use it for protecting myself”, (In admitting she doesn’t even know how to administratively handle her sidearm she admits she is in no way prepared.) and has successfully become that which she rails against; an irresponsible gun owner.
She did not become an irresponsible gun owner by accident. She did it by design and specific intention, simply to prove that she could, and cry that no agent of the state would spring out and force her to take responsible action.
This is not a failure of the state, or of society. It is a failure of one person, the person acting irresponsibly, and that is the author.
We can only urge her to evolve from her irresponsible position and attain the competence necessary to actually be “the good guy with the gun” she *claims* she wants to be.
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Failed? No, I don't think so. You presume that she is interested in carrying out a rational exercise in good faith. I believe she is trying to reinforce a fearful reaction to guns in her intended audience.DonP said:The real question, the only one that really counts, based on her own attitude and "standards" will be, how many innocent people did she kill or wound with her gun?
If the answer is "none", then the whole premise she went into this "experiment" with failed.
when I got home and opened the box and saw the magazine in the gun I freaked. I was too scared to try and eject it as thoughts flooded my mind of me accidentally shooting the gun and a bullet hitting my son in the house or rupturing the gas tank of my car, followed by an earth-shaking explosion. This was the first time my hands shook from the adrenaline surge and the first time I questioned the wisdom of this 30-day experiment.
And yet, she makes a point. There are ignorant, unsafe gun owners out there carrying. I've seen some myself. A responsible person would become proficient at gun safety before carrying, but there are a lotta irresponsible people out there.