I’m toying with the idea of a FART Light to clean brass but to make it worth it I need to be able to do as much brass as I can. I’ll have 308, 223, 9mm, 30-30, and 357/38. Are any of those incompatible? I got a bag of range pickups and found some 40 S&W inside some 44 Mags and could not get them out. Any combination like that I need to watch if I do get into tumbling? I am a high frequency but low volume shooter, so I thing the Light will suit my needs well.
Brass Cases Not To Tumble Together
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billybob44
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Do the 9MM by its self==Everything else you can do together=All rifle listed can go with the .38/.357..
My problem is sorting .380ACP/9MM Makarov/9MM Lugar.=Drives me (More) NUTS...HA.HA...Bill.
PS: What is a FART Light???
My problem is sorting .380ACP/9MM Makarov/9MM Lugar.=Drives me (More) NUTS...HA.HA...Bill.
PS: What is a FART Light???
CQB45ACP
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I have one but use it for single calibers. 100-200 9mm & 100-150 45acp.
FWIW, I don’t like the look of brass tumbled without pins.
FWIW, I don’t like the look of brass tumbled without pins.
Cheesemaker
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Good question. One I have been pondering.
45 ACP/Colt/454/460 and 44 mag all go together
41 Mag/10mm/40 all go together
500/50AE on their own
357 Mag on their own - do not reload 38 Sp/9mm
223 and 308 - still deciding where I include them
Or are wet tumblers more forgiving than dry? I recall a few stuck cases with dry.
Edit add: I have a FART and like it. Still have a Lyman 1200 dry -worked well. But I am a wet boy now. Does wet/dry affect the sticking together?
45 ACP/Colt/454/460 and 44 mag all go together
41 Mag/10mm/40 all go together
500/50AE on their own
357 Mag on their own - do not reload 38 Sp/9mm
223 and 308 - still deciding where I include them
Or are wet tumblers more forgiving than dry? I recall a few stuck cases with dry.
Edit add: I have a FART and like it. Still have a Lyman 1200 dry -worked well. But I am a wet boy now. Does wet/dry affect the sticking together?
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Docendo Discimus
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9mm will get stuck over the neck of a .223 sometimes.
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CQB45ACP
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Waaay too many possible off color responses to you PS.
So, it’s a small tumbler
Will a 9mm fit inside a 38/357? I have and shoot enough 9 I can do that by itself. I have enough 357 and 38 they can each be done alone if need be. The rifles can be mixed. I need to count how much I have of each. I’ve started a “3rd firing” bucket for rifle and the 357 is head stamped separately so I can clean all at once and sort. It seems like a lot of trouble so I want to get as much per session as I can. After rereading above I might not have to mix after all.
Cheesemaker
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So with a wet tumbler - open it after a few minutes of tumbling, add smaller and smaller cartridges (repeat) until all of them are in? Never tried this.
AJC1
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38 and 357 do not play well with 223. I've done the rest without issue so far.
N555
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Anything that can go inside anything else outside the tumbler will definitely lock together inside the tumbler.
I only mix stuff that doesn't lock together.
9mm and 223 do okay, some will weakly stick together
45acp and 44mag/spl play well together.
Most rifle brass doesn't make an unholy union, as long as they are all about say 6.5, 30cal, 8mm.
30carbine and 223 is okay, a few may weakly stick together.
38spl, 357mag, 380 and 9mm play well together.
I only mix stuff that doesn't lock together.
9mm and 223 do okay, some will weakly stick together
45acp and 44mag/spl play well together.
Most rifle brass doesn't make an unholy union, as long as they are all about say 6.5, 30cal, 8mm.
30carbine and 223 is okay, a few may weakly stick together.
38spl, 357mag, 380 and 9mm play well together.
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Middletown
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9mm and 38/357 are fine together. 9mm and 40S&W will stick together, that is the combination I have had the most trouble with.
Riomouse911
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I will mix .32 and .38, .38 and .41, .41 and .45, etc. with this same trick. Put the larger cases in, then after they vibrate a bit and all filled up with media the smaller cases go in. Nothing sticks inside the larger cases this way
. Now don’t make the mistake of tumbling a bunch of .38 Spl and .357 cases together (or any special/magnum). Unless one is all brass and one all nickel, separating them by sight is a time consuming chore.
Stay safe.
AJC1
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Size and sort out of the cleaner, while sizing. It's also your inspection so your going to handle each one.I will mix .32 and .38, .38 and .41, .41 and .45, etc. with this same trick. Put the larger cases in, then after they vibrate a bit and all filled up with media the smaller cases go in. Nothing sticks inside the larger cases this way
Now don’t make the mistake of tumbling a bunch of .38 Spl and .357 cases together (or any special/magnum). Unless one is all brass and one all nickel, separating them by sight is a time consuming chore.
Stay safe.
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I've only used my fart lite maybe a half dozen times (fully loaded) but is working well for me. I keep my 9mm,.357, .38 spl seperate from my .45acp and .45 colt but you don't have either of the last two.
1976B.L.Johns.
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I will mix .32 and .38, .38 and .41, .41 and .45, etc. with this same trick. Put the larger cases in, then after they vibrate a bit and all filled up with media the smaller cases go in. Nothing sticks inside the larger cases this way
This can work with dry media.
It has been discussed before here on THR. That's okay.
Trust me, in my experience it will not work with a wet s/s steel pin tumbler!
1976B.L.Johns.
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Well, that did not turn out correct! ^^^
desmobob
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Forgetting not to throw both 9mm and .40 S&W in the tumbler in the same batch has caused me grief on several occasions.
Very few different caliber brass cases can be tumbled together the media will stick them together
I have tumbled .380 & .223/5.56 together, the .380s are too short to stick on the end of the .223/5.56 cases.
And I have done 6.5 CM with .308/7.62x51 together.
Don't try tumbling 9mm or .380s with .40S&W or 10mm together, but the .40S&W or 10mm can be done at the same run, you will have to resort them afterwards. The .380 & 9mm can be run at the same time, the trick to sorting them afterwards is to put a 9mm between your thumb & index finger so you can feel the match of the 9mm cases but the .380s will feel short.
You just have to try a few to see if they will stick together.
I have tumbled .380 & .223/5.56 together, the .380s are too short to stick on the end of the .223/5.56 cases.
And I have done 6.5 CM with .308/7.62x51 together.
Don't try tumbling 9mm or .380s with .40S&W or 10mm together, but the .40S&W or 10mm can be done at the same run, you will have to resort them afterwards. The .380 & 9mm can be run at the same time, the trick to sorting them afterwards is to put a 9mm between your thumb & index finger so you can feel the match of the 9mm cases but the .380s will feel short.
You just have to try a few to see if they will stick together.
Blue68f100
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Very simple. Any case that will slip over on in another case DO NOT MIX. when doing wet tumbling.
With dry tumblers you can add the larger left them fill with media and and smaller. with straight wall brass. You do that will SS pins and they seam to weld together. With out pins treat like dry media.
With dry tumblers you can add the larger left them fill with media and and smaller. with straight wall brass. You do that will SS pins and they seam to weld together. With out pins treat like dry media.
Riomouse911
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I only use dry, I can see where the pins could get wedged I between the cases though.
Stay safe.
Stay safe.
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