Browning Light Twelve Auto 5 Pin Removal

[TigerCreek]

I am working on an old Browning Light Twelve Auto 5.
I have run into a problem with removing the pins that hold the Magazine Cut-Off and the Cartridge Stop.
When I attempted to drive them out from the bottom they touched the top of the receiver before they could be released.
My solution was to cut them off and finish driving them through.
The Carrier Latch on the opposite side of the receiver uses the same roll pin and I had no issues driving it through.
My questions are how did Browning intend for these to be removed? and have these been replaced before with the wrong length roll pin?
The length of these three identical pins are 1" (seems 3/4" should suffice).
Any enlightenment would be appreciated.

 

[NMexJim]

I would suggest that you take this question to this forum. There is a drop-down menu right next to the "sign in" hot button. In that drop-down is a Gunsmithing and Restoration forum. These guys have saved my bacon a time or two. Lots of good shotgun stuff.

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Too, there is a A5 forum. Don't know anything about it, but here 'tis.

Browning Auto A-5 | Browning Owners

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And, there you can always call Browning. I've had mixed results w/ that. I think it depends on who you speak to.

 

[TigerCreek]

Thank you!

 

[a5werkes]

Those pins have always been close quarters to remove them. Never had to cut a factory pin to remove it.
I authored a technical Manual on the A-5.

 

[TigerCreek]

Great info.
I did not have any problem removing the carrier latch pin. It came out with room to spare.
The magazine cut off and cartridge latch pins hit the top of the receiver so I stopped driving. I guess there is a chance that they were close enough to releasing that they would have begun angling out but I was afraid to find out. Two replacement factory pins are on the way

 

[a5werkes]

Removing the pins is the easy part! Re-installing them without screwing up the carrier latch hinges is the trick. Here's a few I have used, especially the toothpick and clamp stabilization once alignment of the holes is assured. A few clamp fabrications I use for the Benelli's as well as they are almost identical, except the Benelli has a receiver thru-hole for the roll pin to exit.

 

[a5werkes]

........also, on installation, make sure the roll pin punch is long enough that the body of the punch does not mar the
receiver, use protective tape. I fabricated from drill rod some long roll pin and starter punches to deal with this issue that are useful for other gunsmithing tasks.

 

[TigerCreek]

Excellent write-up. I reinstalled the carrier latch last night with the remaining original pin. Patience is key.
I've used toothpicks and Qtip shafts as guides on many projects. They are a great help.

 

[a5werkes]

While on the subject of similar-styled carrier latch retaining pins, one of the odd-balls I have dealt with is the Remington 11-48 Sportsman model, 16 gauge. A family hand-me-down cause it's old. Restored it.

Interestingly, the carrier latch retention is a solid pin with 1-72 threads that required a special Remington factory tool (unobtanium) to engage and remove.

I fabricated my version of said factory tool, employing a Dremel arbor and its screw.

IF by chance a voyeur has said factory tool, I am a motivated buyer.

That is all I have for hump Day.

 

[TigerCreek]

Thank you again for the help. I received the new pins and installed without any issues.
I would like to share a tip that I used to make reinstalling these pins seamless - spray can extensions.
In this particular application they fit better than toothpicks with the added benefit of bending out of the way when they hit the top of the receiver after accomplishing their guide duties. I'm sure you can find many instances to put them to use.

 

[a5werkes]

Flexible is good.
What I do like about the the tooth pick is the pointed end fits into the roll pin, securing its guide purpose.