Buckshot size vs range

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Beginner question here, if 00 buck retains it's energy better at range than smaller shot why do coyote hunters usually use 4 buck for super long shots some close to 70 yards. Can the small number of pellets just not hit with 00?
Side question in your opinion which shot size can be pushed to the longest ethical range?
 
Dispersion is not reliable with 00 Buck at 70 yards. Try it sometime, if you have a safe place to do so.

#2 shot would be my opinion, based on shooting geese at 90+ yards. (back before steel shot)
 
For traditional 2 3/4" 9-pellet buckshot, the pattern at 70 yards is far too sparse to provide reliable hits. Smaller shot, with more pellets in the payload, fill in the pattern better.

If you wanted to use 00 at that distance, I'd recommend trying buckshot constructed with Federal FliteControl wads - they provide very dense/tight patterns at range.
 
The real advantage to the shotgun for predator hunting is being able to hit fast moving critters on the run, or bust them at close ranges where you have minimal time to get on target and take a shot. Sure you can probably roll one at 70 yards but you’re going to need a follow up shot or two. In brush country shotguns are king, guys that only hunt fields not so much. Given that, you want the highest count of lethal size pellets possible. Which is why #4 buck is arguably the most popular, followed by T or BB shot. All have pellet weight’s heavy enough to carry their energy downrange and be lethal in minimal numbers (8 hits + on a paper plate at 50 yards seems to be the consensus for lethality.


The real equalizer for range is what the pellets are made out of. The premium stuff which is tungsten based will carry energy a lot further than lead, which carries it’s energy further than steel. The new TSS (tungsten based) is the heaviest out of them all and some people say #2 bird is lethal out to 70 yards, but who knows.


I see no advantage in going with 00 buck, just doesn’t make any sense. Also, your set up with a load in your gun anticipating them running you over, as in shots within 40 yards or so. You're not going to say, hang on a minute let me throw in some 00 buck for that 70 yard shot. Most places you'll be setup with a shotgun you can only see 40-50 yards max, if you can see further carry a rifle aswell.
 
Just out of curiosity I know not all shotguns are the same but from anyone's experience does flite control through cylinder or regular Remington or similar buckshot with full choke reach further? I'm in a predicament eliminating coyotes where I must use a shotgun due to houses being all around. (Slugs haven't grouped reliably)
 
Flite Control Buckshot rounds will shoot best through loose chokes; it spreads more through tight chokes. It sounds counterintuitive, but the wad design in a full choke will destroy the pattern. 'Regular' unbuffered buck will spread more than buffered through a full choke, but still less than Flite Control.

I still recommend #2 shot and a full choke for what you want to do.
 
I second the Flite Control through open chokes, they REALLY hold together well at distance compared to regular buckshot loads.

70 yards is a fair poke for coyotes with any shotgun load, especially the few 9 00 buck pellets that are in a 2 3/4" shell (or the 15 in a 3"). #2, BB, etc. and a tight choke will give you more effective patterns at distance as was stated earlier.
 
If you can find lead BB, that's the way to go.
I bought a whole skid a few years ago.
They went obsolete with all the waterfowl regulations.
Lot of shot for the same size case and they hit REALLY hard.

MY next choice would be #4 buck. (for the same reasons)

Doesn't take a cannon to kill a yote'.
 
Ethnically taking coyotes with a shotgun at extended range requires a clear knowledge of the capabilities of your setup. How many pellets of your shot choice will hit a 9" paper plate at your max range? How many are needed to kill a coyote cleanly. I tweaked my Mossberg 850 turkey gun to use for coyotes. A 3.5" shell holds 54 pellets of #4 buck. 2-3 pellets in 9" are good. Dead Coyote hevi-shot were the best 60+ yards range. You must spend time at the pattern board to establish your max range. Any 12 ga with lead shot #2 shot and up will take a 'yote to 45 yards depending on choke. For longer ranges use tungsten (TTS) shot it hits much harder.
 
My Remington 870 Express with a 20" Rifle Sighted barrel shoots the old Hornady Tap 8 pellet 00 buck into a 5" pattern at 50 Yards. At 100 yards I consistently placed 7 of 8 pellets into a 9" circle. Every load and shotgun combination is different. Buy a wide variety of the top tier ammo and test it yourself.
 
Try the Hornady varmint 4 buck shells. It uses a flite control style wad and is a great yote load from all reports.
 
Usually the shell's MV is rated in FPS on the box. I look for #4 in the 1350FPS range, 2-1/2" shells. But that's just what we prefer.
 
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