I have some Bullseye 88 - FS. Alliant said it was an OEM powder for which they have no load data. Has anyone ever used this powder that can help me out? I would hate to have to spread it on the yard. Thanks!
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Call Jeff Bartlet at gibrass (270-685-2432) they handle a lot of surplus powders.
He might have some information on this powder.
He might have some information on this powder.
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From Paul at Alliant in a post from Sept 2017:
This is from post #41:
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/power-pistol.826505/page-2
So if it's slower than PP, start with a PP load and carefully work up.
This is from post #41:
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/power-pistol.826505/page-2
So if it's slower than PP, start with a PP load and carefully work up.
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Yes, it is not a propellant intended for handloaders, so no load data. Sorry.
It is slower burning than Power Pistol(R).
Please be safe.
Paul
It is slower burning than Power Pistol(R).
Please be safe.
Paul
https://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/powderlist.aspx?type=1&powderid=8&cartridge=23
The 9mm / 115 FMJ data for Power Pistol is a whopping 6.7 gn for 1200 FPS. 3.5 gn may not even cycle the slide. Is possibility detonation an issue at low charge weights?
The 9mm / 115 FMJ data for Power Pistol is a whopping 6.7 gn for 1200 FPS. 3.5 gn may not even cycle the slide. Is possibility detonation an issue at low charge weights?
I don't know about possible detonation, but likely not with even a medium burning pistol powder. Also, the case is small, unlike small powder charges in, say a 30-06 case.
In your shoes, I'd get out my chronograph and start with a .38 or .357 case and a cast bullet and work up from there in a stout .357 revolver like a GP100. Start with minimum loads, and work up until you get complete burn and expected, but not top, velocities. Know the pressure signs and look for them carefully.
If you're not comfortable with this, give the powder away to an experienced reloader who would like the challenge. There is plenty of other powder available, currently, and this may not be worth your time and aggravation. It seems a waste to put it on your lawn.
In your shoes, I'd get out my chronograph and start with a .38 or .357 case and a cast bullet and work up from there in a stout .357 revolver like a GP100. Start with minimum loads, and work up until you get complete burn and expected, but not top, velocities. Know the pressure signs and look for them carefully.
If you're not comfortable with this, give the powder away to an experienced reloader who would like the challenge. There is plenty of other powder available, currently, and this may not be worth your time and aggravation. It seems a waste to put it on your lawn.
Yes - I agree with your approach. I can start with my S&W 686 revolver. Just happen to have a Labradar too, but never tried it with a pistol, though. Anyway, I’ll use Power Pistol data as reference. Now that CMP cancelled Camp Perry I have time to mess with pistols again.
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Ok, so it is slower burning than Power Pistol. You have a chrono. I would feel safe working up a load with Power Pistol first, working up to the max published charge. Chrono the Power Pistol load. Then repeat with the 88FS, and work up to the same velocity as the PP load. Watch for the powder being compressed, though, which might be possible with a slower powder. As long as the velocity is less than or equal to the Power Pistol load, and the powder isn't being compressed, the pressure should be less. Somebody correct me if I am wrong.
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That would be the fly in the ointment.
Any close equivalent powder to use for starting load data? All the surplus (?) powders I have use an equivalent powder data, like my WC 820 vs. H110 and my BR-5 vs Unique...
We’ll BE-88-FS Fans- here’s the field report you have been waiting for: I loaded 5.5 gn into random 9mm cases with CCI #500 and 115FMJ. Shot about 1060 fps avg and recoil with a Ruger P89 was so soft that I thought it was a 22. I’ll see how this load groups next time and will try it in a SIG 365. Thanks for all the help.
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Just remember, the burn chart will tell you which powders are faster and slower but not HOW MUCH faster or slower.
Burn speeds are also relative when loading different cartridges.
Velocity was spot-on for Power Pistol, by the way. I have to get the numbers off my device and I can publish when I get the chance.
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If you feel safe and it works well for you go with it.
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