Master Blaster
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One of the Big problems we face in Intellegence gathering, is that the Lawyers were put in charge after Iran Contra back in the 1980's. The lawyers wanted to make sure everyone was following the law, and that no laws were broken in the Intellegence gathering activities of the CIA, NSA, FBI etc.
The probelm is that you cant spy on terrorists, drug dealers, Mafia kingpins, or other countries without breaking the law yourself. So as a result of this our covert intellegence gathering is missing the boat, and that left us open to the terrorism we have experienced in recent years.
You cant have a covert operative inside any criminal organization unless that operative breaks the law and becomes a criminal himself. If the operative follows the law he will be soon discovered and killed, or fed false information.
Perhaps it was some deep cover need that caused Bush to violate FISA, and the person doing the listening was in fact a deep cover operative within an organization. That meant that the operative could not go to court even FISA court to get the order. The deep cover operative had to do the listening while under deep cover, that means no contact with the AG, CIA, NSA to get the needed authorization. So Bush himself had to authorize the spying????
When you are dealing with Terrorists like the ones we are seeing now, its very hard to infiltrate their organizations, even if you are willing to break the law and become a terrorist yourself to do it.
So now instead of human intell we have to rely on electronic surveilance.
The problem is that the enemy is aware of this. So now messages are passed face to face, and the folks carrying out the plan only know a little, not enough to reveal the plans of the whole network.
That means we have to play dirty and take advantage of every technological trick in the book. Did this necessitate Bush circumventing the FISA?????
I have no idea. Do you????
The probelm is that you cant spy on terrorists, drug dealers, Mafia kingpins, or other countries without breaking the law yourself. So as a result of this our covert intellegence gathering is missing the boat, and that left us open to the terrorism we have experienced in recent years.
You cant have a covert operative inside any criminal organization unless that operative breaks the law and becomes a criminal himself. If the operative follows the law he will be soon discovered and killed, or fed false information.
Perhaps it was some deep cover need that caused Bush to violate FISA, and the person doing the listening was in fact a deep cover operative within an organization. That meant that the operative could not go to court even FISA court to get the order. The deep cover operative had to do the listening while under deep cover, that means no contact with the AG, CIA, NSA to get the needed authorization. So Bush himself had to authorize the spying????
When you are dealing with Terrorists like the ones we are seeing now, its very hard to infiltrate their organizations, even if you are willing to break the law and become a terrorist yourself to do it.
So now instead of human intell we have to rely on electronic surveilance.
The problem is that the enemy is aware of this. So now messages are passed face to face, and the folks carrying out the plan only know a little, not enough to reveal the plans of the whole network.
That means we have to play dirty and take advantage of every technological trick in the book. Did this necessitate Bush circumventing the FISA?????
I have no idea. Do you????
