Bush Haters, Islamofascists Unite

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There seems to be a certain synchronicity between the finger pointing demands for Rumsfeld's resignation that have dominated the attention of the socialists in congress and the liberal press recently (as well as their not so thinly veiled disgust for President Bush in his support of his defense secretary) and the gruesome death of an American hostage in Iraq recently.

Both the fascists there in Iraq and the socialists here in America are using the issue of prisoner abuse as justification for participating in despicable behavior. The fascists with their chants of 'Allah Akbar' gleefully cut the head off of their captive; videotaped for the world to see while the socialists in Congress, primping for the cameras, call for the political decapitation of the American government. Both sets of behavior represent the worst of mankind;
one is murder, the other treason and neither is justifiable.

The abuse perpetrated at Abu Graib was committed by rogue elements of the military and 'intellegence' contractors who were insufficiently trained and supervised in the performance of their duties. To blame the entire defense structure for this failing and demand that Sec. Rumsfeld resign (not to mention blaming Pres. Bush) is tantamount to demanding the death of all Islamists in retribution for the savage, barbaric acts of murdering terrorists.

Ted Kennedy has already killed one innocent American in his car. How many more are we going to allow him and his ilk to murder from the halls of Congress. We must support the troops and support the war. Continued attempts to hamstring this administration in its persuit of the war on terrorists will only result in higher US casualties and serves to give our enemies aid, comfort and encouragement. The last thing we need is a nest of terrorist allies in our own Congress. ymmv
 
Both the fascists there in Iraq and the socialists here in America are using the issue of prisoner abuse as justification for participating in despicable behavior.

Not very effectively. Islamists sawed Daniel Pearl's head off on camera about a year ago...way before any of the reported abuse.
 
Howdy, throwweight

"Ted Kennedy has already killed one innocent American in his car. How many more are we going to allow him and his ilk to murder from the halls of Congress."

Wow! You have nailed old Chap-Of-Quick-Dick Teddy right to the wall. Wonderful!

I say that we should be hunting terrorists enablers here at home right now. 'Course they're easy to find right now while they are still heroes to the moron faction nationally. Maybe when they figure out that they are not loved by any real liberty loving Americans, they'll crawl under some rocks. Then let's all get together and jump on the rocks.

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The sad fact is the Ted Kennedy's of our country survive because our fellow citizens vote for them. Why they continue to vote for him and his buds, I will leave for your speculation.
 
My 2 cents,


I am very upset as well! I am more upset with the folks that are attemting to make political sunshine out of the way a few of our soldiers treated some prisoners while we have Al Qaeda making videos of beheading our civilians. You see, Al Qaeda isn't even in Iraq. :rolleyes:
Hell, Al Qaeda is here, in the good ole USA. What makes sensible people think they were not in Iraq? They are actively training and planning in every third world state that will allow them!

Here we are, in a war that can potentially be as long of a war as we have ever seen, against an enemy that hates us with passion and wants to kill any one of us in the name of God. The naysayers say their God is the same as ours, well Kiss my A$$. When we go to church or worship however we do, I doubt any one of us will bring a bloody head of a muslim and yell, "In the name of God".

We have news networks, shows like 60 minutes, doing hour long specials on how we treated some prisoners in a time of war. So we shot some pictures of some naked men and put collars and leashes on them, or more. Big d**n Deal! If that's what it takes to soften up some prisoners of this enemy, to assist in getting information out them, go for it!

Who, other than us, is going to protect our country from this evil regime? Please, anyone? This enemy is intent on our destruction and the naysayers need to wake up and realize this. I pray, that no US family ever has anyone whom is a prisoner by this enemy! Videos of being naked or even raped, yes, even raped, would be welcome considering the alternative!

I am agasp at the outrage of the naked videos and the bleeding hearts of many. Let me be clear, I do not condone what a few of ours have done! But, I am also not going to pretend that our military and intelligents agencies don't have a feel for what they need to do in order to fight this particaular enemy and get the information we need to try to save american soldiers and civilians lifes. This is not a normal war and I am sick of playing by the rules when the other side does not. I am not suggesting "turning into the enemy". However, we have a job to do and, against this enemy, it may require some unorthadox tactics.

Hopefully, some day the media will start showing the good we are doing in Iraq. Our soldiers are helping children daily. They are helping families rebuild from era's of ruthless treatment. They are helping educate the kids, helping people regain dignity and freedom. But no, thats not a good enough story, it doesn't sell newspaers and magazines. Most of all, it doesn't help push forward their political agenda. It makes me sick to my stomach.

There is good and evil in this world, I don't think it's hard for sensible people to see the difference either. I deplore those who push their personal agenda during a time when evil looks for every bit of information to use in order to fight the good. Let's just serve it up on silver platter. Lets look for things to make the good look bad. Lets try to turn as many in the country of good, against it's own. I am sure that will help good triumph over evil. :rolleyes:

After 9-11, we were told this war on terror would be a lengthy war. We were told it would be conducted in Afghanistan as well as other countries. We were told that those countries and states that harbored terrorist would be considered in the same league as terrorist themselves. People agreed and said, "yes, it's the right thing to do". But, how soon people forget what 9-11 was and what it did to this country. It's an election year though, I guess that makes it OK to tear down our leaders that are doing what they said they would do. Times get tough in war, it can't, and won't, all be pretty.

There is no calling a 'truess" with this enemy. If we don't want what we see on TV, or worse, to happen here in this country, we all better hope we can keep this enemy at bay or, better yet, defeat them by taking it to them in countries other than our own.

I have tried to keep any political referrence to republicans or democrates out of this and focus on how I see the war and those reporting on it. It's my opinion.
 
Ted Kennedy has already killed one innocent American in his car. How many more are we going to allow him and his ilk to murder from the halls of Congress.

The wheels of justice turn slowly, but FINALLY, after all these years, Those death dealing Kennedy Oldsmobiles are going off the market.

:D :D :D

Ron
 
You are wrong about Democrats. It is Republicans who are playing politics with this. Instead of doing everything in their power to end this mess, they are doing everything in their power to cover it up to American voters. The folks overseas have been reading about this crap for about a year now. If you read any foreign papers or watch foreign news broadcasts you'd know that this was happening already.

No, we liberals are trying to clean up the mess that the GOP leadership has allowed to fester. Folks overseas respect that. They don't respect actions taken to minimalize what is really happening.

One of the biggest reasons that things are going so poorly in Iraq (other than the fact that this ill-planned war may be unwinnable, no matter what) is because of the lack of respect that Iraqis are given.
 
w4rna, as usual, you're dead wrong. Who's trying to make political hay over this? I don't even have the energy to debate about it. "You liberals" side with the enemy at every opportunity.
 
HBK, the Republican leadership is. They don't want it properly investigated, because they would rather the tortures continue (even while allowing the tortures critically harms our chances at success in the Middle East) than field a proper investigation which may hurt them politically at home.
 
After 9-11, we were told this war on terror would be a lengthy war. We were told it would be conducted in Afghanistan as well as other countries. We were told that those countries and states that harbored terrorist would be considered in the same league as terrorist themselves.

We were told a lot of things, many of which turned out to be 100% false.

You want to take a hard look at the two countries whose support was critical to the rise of Al Qaeda? Look at Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. As evil as Saddam was, Iraq had essentially nothing to do with Al Qaeda.
 
You are wrong about Democrats. It is Republicans who are playing politics with this.---wr4ma

You could be right.

But I think it's an attempt to weaken the GOP before this falls election. I think neither Teddy, Kerry, nor their ilk care about the people in Iraq any more then what they can gain from them politically. I think this is evidenced by calling for Rumsfeld's head, rather then that of the abusers and those over seeing them at the Platoon, Company, and or Battalion level.

Did this administration want to stop this from getting out? I would think so as this information strengthens our foes while weakening us, perhaps causing a greater number of US causalities in the long run. I wouldn't call the Left's stand un-American, but I wouldn't want to be in Iraq with my two Senators helping the enemy recruit more troops.

Personally, I'm neither Liberal nor Conservative, but I have watched Kerry and Kennedy's politics in Massachusetts for several decades. I've never seen either one take a position that didn't either help the Left or hurt the Right. They are Self/Party/Country people. it's just what they do!


Respectfully,

jdkelly
 
As evil as Saddam was, Iraq had essentially nothing to do with Al Qaeda.

idd,

You need to read up and catch up. The "Al Qaerda beheaders" were in Iraq and have been for a long time. Colon Powell spoke of this at his presentation months and months ago. Well, the head of a civilian innocent is now your proof.


w4rma, I won't even waist my time on your nonsense.
 
You need to read up and catch up. The "Al Qaerda beheaders" were in Iraq and have been for a long time. Colon Powell spoke of this at his presentation months and months ago. Well, the head of a civilian innocent is now your proof.
9/11 Report: No Iraq Link to al-Qaida
By Shaun Waterman
United Press International
Wednesday 23 July 2003

http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030723-064812-9491r
 
It is becoming more clear everyday that AL Qaeda and the DNC are in league.

Both have the same talking points.
Both have the same goal.
Both want to see the USA humuliated and powerless.

Have you ever seen Kerry and Bin Laden at the same time?
 
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