Canadian handgun ban bill modified to include hunting rifles

[rtroha]

Hunters who don't oppose gun control as long as it doesn't affect them should take note.

Confusion was on the agenda at a parliamentary committee last week after the Liberal government brought in last-minute amendments to its contentious gun control legislation.

The proposed changes to Bill C-21 were tacked on by Liberal MP Paul Chiang after it had passed second reading — drawing complaints from opposition MPs who accused the government of sneaking in changes that would expand the scope of prohibited weapons to include hunting rifles.

The amendment adds long guns to the banned list in four different ways. First, it has a clause that would effectively ban any rifle or shotgun that could potentially accept a magazine with more than five rounds, whether or not it actually has such a magazine. Critics say that includes many rifles designed for hunters, not soldiers.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/bill-c21-sporting-guns-1.6673730

 

[Carl N. Brown]

That's cute.

The M69 Rumanian Army Training Rifle (widely sold and bought as surplus in the US as an inexpensive hunting rifle) started with a single shot bolt action design and added a five shot magazine. I made a spare magazine for mine by soldering a retaining lug to the front of a 6 shot J22 pistol magazine. If a single shot can be converted to 5 shot magazine fed and larger capacity magazines can be adapted to fit, that verbiage can be applied to any rifle.

Don't think they won't try it here in the US. Everyone should bother to read the perennially introduced AWB (not the press releases, the actual text posted by Feinstein).

 

[Spats McGee]

I haven't been able to follow the developments in Canada as closely as perhaps I should have, but from what I have seen: (1) Didn't Canada just ban handguns? (2) It banned 'assault weapons' a couple of years ago; and now (3) is going after hunting rifles.

Assuming, but only for the sake of argument, that the hunting rifle measure passes, what guns would then be available in Canada? Would there be any left that aren't banned? Shotguns, maybe?

 

[Riomouse911]

No surprise. The Peoples Republik here uses “Gut and amend” tricks all the time to skirt debate and weasel unpopular bills into law. Starts out as A, gets gutted and refilled to be passed as W.

Let this be a lesson to the half-hearted 2A supporters; It’s not “Those” guns they want to ban. It is all of “Your” guns they want to ban.

Stay safe.

 

[redcon1]

Once disarmament is complete, the ability to speak out against the government responsible for the disarmament will soon follow.

 

[Stevel]

I haven't been able to follow the developments in Canada as closely as perhaps I should have, but from what I have seen: (1) Didn't Canada just ban handguns? (2) It banned 'assault weapons' a couple of years ago; and now (3) is going after hunting rifles.

Assuming, but only for the sake of argument, that the hunting rifle measure passes, what guns would then be available in Canada? Would there be any left that aren't banned? Shotguns, maybe?

The Anti's never stop. Once Canada secures English style gun bans they will go after airguns and knives-like the British.

It looks like the law won't ban traditional bolt action rifles.

 

[kwguy]

It looks like the law won't ban traditional bolt action rifles.

Until it does…

 

[Shanghai McCoy]

^^^
Yeah, what he said.
Also, how does/will this effect those hunters from the states who go up to Kanada for hunting ?

 

[General Geoff]

It looks like the law won't ban traditional bolt action rifles.

Unless someone somewhere has chambered it for any caliber capable of 10,000 joules of muzzle energy. The bill bans the Ruger No.1 single shot rifle because someone, somewhere built one chambered for .460 Weatherby Magnum. Never offered by Ruger in that configuration. Still bans every Ruger No.1 because of it.

 

[doubleh]

Never give an inch. Gun control is not about banning certain types of guns, it's about banning them all even if it is done one type at a time. Gun controllers plan on nibbling away until we are allowed NONE. Canada is just several steps ahead of the US at this time.

 

[Remington1911]

Once disarmament is complete, the ability to speak out against the government responsible for the disarmament will soon follow.

They are already there....remember the trucks.

 

[Remington1911]

Never give an inch. Gun control is not about banning certain types of guns, it's about banning them all even if it is done one type at a time. Gun controllers plan on nibbling away until we are allowed NONE. Canada is just several steps ahead of the US at this time.

And when they can't get this, they just tax the hell out of everything around it. What good does your single shot 22LR do you if tax on a box of 50 is $100.

 

[Ignition Override]

Somebody referred to these characters....FUDDs are partly assisting Schumer, Feinstein etc.

And these self-centered gun owners don't give a Hoot about others' constitutional rights.
Not gun privileges, Rights.

 

[SSN Vet]

Under Trudeau's narcissistic leftist dictatorship, Canada has turned into a police state.

 

[DMW1116]

Seems like they want to prevent gun deaths so the "health" care system there can do it instead. Look into Canada's evolving laws for Medically Assisted Death.

 

[Spats McGee]

.... Look into Canada's evolving laws for Medically Assisted Death.

Obviously, y'all can look into this all you want. It is NOT a THR topic, though.

 

[gwpercle]

This is why you have to oppose ALL Gun Bans ... handgun ban modified to include hunting rifles !
Once they get started they don't stop .
Never back / support any group who wishes to disarm you . They don't have your best interest in mind . Once a group is unarmed they are easy to control .
My veteran Father saw a lot of this in WWII ... and the first step always included disarming the people .
Do Not Support Any Group Who Pushes Gun Control .
Gun Control = People Control
Remember how fast and eager they were to push Mandates on us ... I was shocked at what the left/dems did and how fast andeager they were to do it.
Gary

 

[doubleh]

I was shocked at what the left/dems did and how fast andeager they were to do it.
Gary

I wasn't surprised at all. It's all about power. I am surprise at how the public knuckled under to it.

 

[Ignition Override]

Regarding the previous long list of Semi-Auto Rifles which were to be banned in Canada. This was aboot a year agohh ?

A Canadian guy on another gun forum had some surprising news.

He claimed less than a year ago that the Canadian bureaucracy in charge of knowing who owns which guns etc "..is Visciously Incompetent". Odd expression, eh ?

He indicated that only a very limited amount of people have been told to stop using these guns, as some aspects of the draconian "ruling" are being interpreted by whichever agencies or Crown Courts etc
One guy's comments certainly can't be proof for any widespread scenario, but it was very interesting to read.

And he said that if you have access to safe rural land for shooting, lots of people are still shooting their VZ-858 (VZ-58), SKS etc out in remote areas, only not risking their use at normal gun ranges, iirc.
Canada seems to have plenty of wide open land, having flown multiple times over much of it.

 

[robin banks]

Seems like they want to prevent gun deaths so the "health" care system there can do it instead. Look into Canada's evolving laws for Medically Assisted Death.

every state that has police will eventually turn into a police state

 

[Dragonfly]

The big change with this amendment was the prohibition of every centrefire box-fed semi-auto rifle, as well others like the SKS and Garand. It really, really sucks, and it’s so pointless—there are almost no crimes committed with these rifles. And the confiscation compensation cost of the previously announced firearms was already about $1 billion. The only hope is that there’s a government change before whatever deadline is announced. The AR15 and a few others were prohibited in May 2020 and the compensation program is still not set up so that’s what I’m hoping for.

 

[P5 Guy]

confiscation compensation cost of the previously announced firearms was already about $1 billion

Government doesn't care about cost, but the taxpayers should. Ultimately, they pay. sort of like having to pay to have other people's guns confiscated.

 

[rust collector]

What a nightmare. Imagine your tax dollars being spent to purchase your and other people's guns so they can be destroyed, because criminal activity in metro areas is out of control, police resources are hobbled, prisons are no deterrent and politicians continue to get elected based upon promises that they will not/ cannot keep. Those tax dollars can also be used to manipulate crime statistics and "news" coverage to make restrictions seem effective when they objectively are not.

We can see the writing on the wall, and we have watched similar stories unfold in our states that are ruled by metro influences. I hope that our friends in Canada have the resolve to fight these measures, and that we can learn from their ultimate success.

 

[theotherwaldo]

Remember, they're not really trying to keep people from having guns.
They're trying to keep law abiding people from having guns.
Actual criminals aren't normally prosecuted for possession of a firearm but otherwise law-abiding gun owners will have the book thrown at them.

 

[CDW4ME]

Incremental prohibition until its all prohibited, like taking pieces of a pie.
This piece of pie is "assault weapons", now this piece is "commonsense", now this piece "safety" is your last and its being taken too.