Carry "odd balls"

[starling]

Nope, if I need a gun for protection, I NEED a gun I am most familiar and proficient with. I carry my Colt Delta Elite in 10mm summer, winter, spring and fall. At home, in the woods, in town, to a friends house, to the enemy's ghetto, Colt 10 mm.

Odd balls and curiosities are for the target range and wild west shows, not serious work.

IMO....Nonsense... you just get familiar with firearms handling in general and different platforms. This is youtube "operator" Meal Team Six talk.

Besides... "serious work" requires tools specifically for the job at hand. If someone has good fundamentals they can shoot well with almost any platform.

 

[starling]

I rarely carry anything odd unless I need it. I usually pocket carry when off duty. My weapon of choice is now a SIG 365. I choose it as a power step up from the previous carry gun, a GLOCK 42 in .380ACP. The oddball is when I am wearing slacks that will not accommodate the 365 or GLOCK 42, so I wear either a BERETTA Tomcat or if needed, a NORTH AMERICAN ARMS Guardian, both are .32ACP.
I like and shoot the BERETTA on occasion to keep my skill with it, but the Guardian is one of the most unpleasant guns I own, that I shoot. I last shot it for only 25 rounds as I found a full 50 rounds to be really unpleasant.

Jim

Those Guardians and Other Seecamp Clones are definitely not fun for range work but they sure do excel as deep concealment bugs.

 

[Terry G]

I started carrying an East German Makarov and the switched to a CZ82 (more shot's, more accurate) before I got the full CZ infection and switched to a P-01.

 

[Rexster]

Seecamp LWS-32. Almost every day; not “primary,” but almost always with me. I have several pocket holsters, to fit various pockets.

In 1985, I carried an HK P7, a.k.a. PSP, while on police patrol duty in a flap holster, and during personal time in a Bianchi Askins Avenger holster. When the department started a transition to open-top duty holsters, I reverted to carrying a revolver while on duty. With a baby on the way, and other financial stresses, in 1986-1987, I had to sell the P7. Notably, this was pre-M8, and I bought it new, for about $400-something mid-Eighties dollars.

Now retired from LEO-ing, I usually carry medium to medium-large revolvers, and the occasional large-frame sixgun, all of which some folks consider to be odd. Yep, when the world was carrying revolvers, I toted an HK P7, and now, when the world is carrying autos, I tote revolvers.

 

[starling]

Seecamp LWS-32. Almost every day; not “primary,” but almost always with me. I have several pocket holsters, to fit various pockets.

In 1985, I carried an HK P7, a.k.a. PSP, while on police patrol duty in a flap holster, and during personal time in a Bianchi Askins Avenger holster. When the department started a transition to open-top duty holsters, I reverted to carrying a revolver while on duty. With a baby on the way, and other financial stresses, in 1986-1987, I had to sell the P7. Notably, this was pre-M8, and I bought it new, for about $400-something mid-Eighties dollars.

Now retired from LEO-ing, I usually carry medium to medium-large revolvers, and the occasional large-frame sixgun, all of which some folks consider to be odd. Yep, when the world was carrying revolvers, I toted an HK P7, and now, when the world is carrying autos, I tote revolvers.

At least you have good taste.

 

[Jack Ryan]

IMO....Nonsense... you just get familiar with firearms handling in general and different platforms. This is youtube "operator" Meal Team Six talk.

Besides... "serious work" requires tools specifically for the job at hand. If someone has good fundamentals they can shoot well with almost any platform.

ah huh. It was asked and answered. I never asked you any thing for a reason.

 

[Kleanbore]

IMO....Nonsense... you just get familiar with firearms handling in general and different platforms. This is youtube "operator" Meal Team Six talk.

If someone has good fundamentals they can shoot well with almost any platform.

You are overlooking something very important.

One can readily "get familiar with firearms handling in general and different platforms", and most people can, with practice, shoot reasonably well with "almost any platform".

But in SD situations, a person must react extremely quickly, without knowing in advance, and without taking time to ascertain, which gun he is drawing in that instant. He must adapt to the "platform" in the instant, without fumbling and without delay.

Carrying different "platforms" in a "carry rotation" complicates the task. It's not like practicing at the range.

This is not untested theory. There is a science about it. Those who design weapon systems, vehicle equipment, displays, and just about everything else involving potential danger, subject their concepts to human factors engineering analysis.

A case in point: most people believe and will contend that they can drive their daily driver as well as their spouses car. Sure--but sometimes something unexpected happens in the middle of an intersection. The emergency becomes the telling point. This comes up in court cases.

The same thing can happen in a self defense incident. Self defense is not about "going shooting",

Some years ago, a top aircraft industry exec took over a major car company. He decided to drive every one of their models. The wipers, headlamp controls, fuel cover releases, and other things were annoyingly different. This led to high level direction at a staff meeting.

I studied human factors engineering and a lab course almost six decades ago. I could have told the folks in Dearborn something then.

Some people my age, and some old car buffs, may remember when the automatic transmission selector patterns differed among car models. There is a reason why P-R-N-D-L is required today.

 

[Viper1357]

Another vote for the tiny Seecamp LWS 32....

 

[wnycollector]

I switched to an oddball pistol when I started to appendix carry about six months ago. So I moved from my SIG P365 (carried at 4pm IWB) to a SIG P250 Compact. I'm much more comfortable carrying a DAO pistol in that position than a pre-cocked striker gun.

 

[defjon]

Not an oddball but I just discovered that my pencil barrel model 10 carries and hides in the waist band better than my 642 does. It’s more secure due to the 4” barrel and not uncomfortable at all. That wowed the heck out of me.

Well, I'm off to try this...pencil barrel model 10 would make a decent hiking buddy

 

[defjon]

Oddball carry choices hmm.

Beretta 9000s

Bersa thunder

32 acp ppk stainless from interarms, nice "hi cap" pocket blaster.

Taurus ply 22

Naa mini

Rossi 3 inch 38

Ruger wrangler - in a large coat pocket believe it or not, loaded up with velociters. Glad to have when about a hundred coyotes were following

Taurus 85 (not oddball, but generally hated brand.)

Beretta tomcat

Feg pa63

Weirdest, maybe my Smith and Wesson governor... 28 ounces it carries light, has a good nightsight front site. 45 colt speed loader or a few 45 acp moon clips carry well for fast reload.

45 hardcast wadcutters for deep woods.

Nightstand, federal 410 buck for the first 4, couple 45 colt jhp to finish it up because if 16 36 caliber roundballs havent settled accounts maybe try a new approach!

 

[starling]

Oddball carry choices hmm.

Beretta 9000s

Bersa thunder

32 acp ppk stainless from interarms, nice "hi cap" pocket blaster.

Taurus ply 22

Naa mini

Rossi 3 inch 38

Ruger wrangler - in a large coat pocket believe it or not, loaded up with velociters. Glad to have when about a hundred coyotes were following

Taurus 85 (not oddball, but generally hated brand.)

Beretta tomcat

Feg pa63

Weirdest, maybe my Smith and Wesson governor... 28 ounces it carries light, has a good nightsight front site. 45 colt speed loader or a few 45 acp moon clips carry well for fast reload.

45 hardcast wadcutters for deep woods.

Nightstand, federal 410 buck for the first 4, couple 45 colt jhp to finish it up because if 16 36 caliber roundballs havent settled accounts maybe try a new approach!

Beretta 9000s is definitly a strange one these days. How is the grip holding up? Neat guns though. Beretta should have just named it Minority Report 9000. I remember drooling over one when they first hit the market.

 

[defjon]

Beretta 9000s is definitly a strange one these days. How is the grip holding up? Neat guns though. Beretta should have just named it Minority Report 9000. I remember drooling over one when they first hit the market.

It was one of the first guns I bought, maybe around 2004.

Man, that grip is so thick and fat. The little extension that pops out of the mag when gripped was neat.

It seemed like a stout and reliable build, everything was a bit overbuilt about it. The ergos were just off.

 

[starling]

It was one of the first guns I bought, maybe around 2004.

Man, that grip is so thick and fat. The little extension that pops out of the mag when gripped was neat.

It seemed like a stout and reliable build, everything was a bit overbuilt about it. The ergos were just off.

has the rubber started to deteriorate yet? Every one I handle now seems to be falling apart. I stll kind of want one in 9mm but Have not come up with a good solution. Some of these 3d printing gurus need th take a shot at some sort of grip fill panels. They are beasts for a smaller carry pistol though. Nice and heavy duty feeling. I hated the 40 (and I prefer 40s&w) but the 9mm was a nice shooter for me.

 

[GEM]

I'll play. I suppose my oddball is a SW 432 J frame in 32 HR mag which is a very light pocket revolver. I have no rotation only situational dress constraints. Normally, the EDC is a 9mm Glock and extra mag. However, dress might lead to the J frame and a speed strip or speed loader. Note however, as I have said, I have trained with and practiced with and competed with J frames, so that it isn't a one box at the range once a year gun. The 432 is an oddball in the sense that it is not made anymore but the 32 HR mag revolvers are quite popular in some of the instructor sets as a pocket gun and many are moving towards a LCR in 327. The extra round in appealing and the 32 HR isn't anything to sneeze at.

I wouldn't carry some old whatever that I haven't run out in class or competition to look like a 'cool' kid. Yep, I can pick up most reasonable guns and shoot them but like Kleanbore said, I want my motor memory strong and available in a crisis.

 

[shoobe01]

Only reason I carry a weird gun is if I shot something unusual at a match, from IWB so it's easily carryable. I'll often just load it back up and carry the rest of the day. Not much, but sometimes. Now, maybe once every 2-3 years, but more in the past.

Never something that is unreliable, but I already purge unreliable guns. The last guns I had that were both fully assembled and not 100% were 2x 1911s (Springfield and Colt) I kept for a long time because the local culture was till recently pretty 1911ish. I would not have been invited to go with the local group to Gunsite if I brought my S&W, for example. Those were despite respectable gunsmith work, as reliable as any 1911 I see at range days, so I /never/ carried them for SD.

 

[mrmike7189]

I had the previously mentioned beretta 25acp jetfire for almost 20 years, then got a seecamp 32acp, now I have the S&W M&P bodyguard 380acp. I like the little light ones. At least I keep going up in calibers
I guess I have a history of carrying odd ball pocket pistols. who knew?
Odd isnt it !

 

[RevolvingGarbage]

This S&W New Departure .38S&W is my carry choice when I want something that hides easily and looks pretty.



Sure it’s a little heavy and a bit long for the power level it puts out, but it’s also a very easy gun to shoot fast and accurately thanks to the trigger and low pressure cartridge.

 

[starling]

This S&W New Departure .38S&W is my carry choice when I want something that hides easily and looks pretty.

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Sure it’s a little heavy and a bit long for the power level it puts out, but it’s also a very easy gun to shoot fast and accurately thanks to the trigger and low pressure cartridge.

Look at you.... speed strip and all. What do you use for a holster... nylon... custom leather? No kydex plastic please.

I would carry one of my russian Nagants once in a while on the trail if someone made a decent load for it that isnt corrosive. Almost went full stupid and did a 32acp conversion along with a hard chrome job and action work before I came to my senses. I get the appeal of carrying these old relics.

 

[RevolvingGarbage]

Look at you.... speed strip and all. What do you use for a holster... nylon... custom leather? No kydex plastic please.

I would carry one of my russian Nagants once in a while on the trail if someone made a decent load for it that isnt corrosive. Almost went full stupid and did a 32acp conversion along with a hard chrome job and action work before I came to my senses. I get the appeal of carrying these old relics.

At one point I had a Desantis Softuck iwb which worked decently well with this gun and other small framed revolvers, but generally I carry sort of appendix style with no holster actually. I use a regular hair tie which sits around my front right belt loop and my gun belt, and loops around the barrel of the revolver. This means pressure from the belt keeps the gun in place, and the hair tie prevents the possibility of the gun slipping down my jeans.

Works just fine and is safe with any revolver, but I would not ever recommend or use this method with a chambered semi auto pistol.

 

[starling]

At one point I had a Desantis Softuck iwb which worked decently well with this gun and other small framed revolvers, but generally I carry sort of appendix style with no holster actually. I use a regular hair tie which sits around my front right belt loop and my gun belt, and loops around the barrel of the revolver. This means pressure from the belt keeps the gun in place, and the hair tie prevents the possibility of the gun slipping down my jeans.

Works just fine and is safe with any revolver, but I would not ever recommend or use this method with a chambered semi auto pistol.

Thats Mexicano Carry isnt it? Worked for Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapon. I dont think he did the hair tie though. It was a movie afterall. There were a few gun writers that promoted that stle with the loop back in the 90s. I still have those old magazines. Seems like the front sight would snag but dousnt look to be a concern with your break top.

Yeah... modern crowd wouldnt go for that with semi autos. Might slow down the Glock quick draw when someone challenges you to a gunfight in front of the saloon HaHa. Plus... "operators" always have tactical holsters.

Nice gun. I can tell you take care of it. Grips look like they are still perfect.

 

[Godsgunman]

Oddball carry choices hmm.

Beretta 9000s

I also have a 9000s. I guess that should have been in the OP, lol. Mine has the rubber grips off replaced with Talon grips. I really like the gun a lot. It's blocky but shoots well.

 

[starling]

I also have a 9000s. I guess that should have been in the OP, lol. Mine has the rubber grips off replaced with Talon grips. I really like the gun a lot. It's blocky but shoots well.

Just admit it... you bought it after multiple viewing of Minority Report. Its OK to be Honest.

Tom is a hell of a gun salesman.

 

[bigmike45]

I don’t consider the Bulldog an oddball. I like mine a lot. One that might be more rare is a 3-inch GP100. GPs are not rare, but they probably don’t get much use for CCW.

I have a bit of an oddball that I carry on a regular basis. It is a 3", stainless, factory double action only, GP-100 in .357mag and I carry it IWB.


Another oddball you don't hear about being carried much is my KelTec PF9 that I carry either in a pocket holster or in an IWB holster.



and my last oddball that I carry is a stainless Taurus 415 in .41mag.

 

[Godsgunman]

Just admit it... you bought it after multiple viewing of Minority Report. Its OK to be Honest.

Tom is a hell of a gun salesman.

You're on to me . I hardly remember the movie. I actually do like the looks of it, a mini 92. I just wish it was steel or at least alloy like CZ did with their Rami instead of a poly frame.