Paincakesx
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Is it legal to transport a rifle / shotgun openly from one's car to their home without a case if it's unloaded?
I'm in Oregon if that helps.
I'm in Oregon if that helps.
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Carrying a rifle / shotgun from car to home... - OR
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spikedzombies
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Umm I do it all the time lol (wa) hopefully its legal
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smalls
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You're on your property, so yes.
andrewstorm
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call the hwy patrol they are the enforcing agency
They'll tell ya fer sure........ in NC long guns and handguns in plain sight are legal,and considered open carry.
They'll tell ya fer sure........ in NC long guns and handguns in plain sight are legal,and considered open carry.
Paincakesx
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Not quite. It's an apartment complex where the car is parked right outside the apartment door. I'm not sure the areas between my car to my door is my property.
I also meant that if one literally carries it, in their hands. Say, for example, you impulsively but a long gun that doesn't come with a case / box.
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Safetychain
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I would assume that the car or truck is in your driveway. In my mind's eye, that puts you on your property. At least in SC its legal even when loaded and marching with the gun on your shoulder around the perimeter. It probably would be pretty stupid but I could juggle a few pistols to entertain my neighbors and still be legal.
In all seriousness I would think that even when renting a house or an apartment, for this matter it would still be considered your property as it is your right of way. I would think that most states, maybe not IL or NJ, if it is legal for you to own a gun, then carrying it openly and even loaded anywhere on your own property is legal as long as you are not pointing it at somebody or doing something else stupid with it.
In all seriousness I would think that even when renting a house or an apartment, for this matter it would still be considered your property as it is your right of way. I would think that most states, maybe not IL or NJ, if it is legal for you to own a gun, then carrying it openly and even loaded anywhere on your own property is legal as long as you are not pointing it at somebody or doing something else stupid with it.
NavyLCDR
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Might as well call the local gun store and a ccw instructor as well. The three biggest sources of misinformation regarding firearms law are LEO, gun store employees and ccw instructors.
Would you ask the 18 year old oil change guy at Jiffy Lube to rebuild a NASCAR engine and hope to win the Indy 500 with it?
Might as well ask a bunch of strangers on an internet forum what is legal or not and you will get as many different answers as asking a bunch of LEO's what the laws are on carrying firearms.
That being said: Oregon has state preemption except that local governments may ban the carrying of loaded firearms in public by persons who do not possess concealed handgun permits.
Therefore, since there is no Oregon statute that prohibits you from openly carrying an unloaded rifle between your car and apartment - it is perfectly legal to do so.
Or spend $15 at Wal Mart for a zippered soft case.
zxcvbob
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Why would you not have it in a case?
Can you carry it with the action open? You're less likely to get shot by an off-duty police officer or deputy that way.
Can you carry it with the action open? You're less likely to get shot by an off-duty police officer or deputy that way.
Guy B. Meredith
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Should be, depending on city. Check with local police. Handgun carry is very liberal (in the good sense) and long guns should be less of a problem.
Where are you located? Downside is that you may not want to advertise to neighbors that there is something to steal.
Where are you located? Downside is that you may not want to advertise to neighbors that there is something to steal.
Paincakesx
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I live in Eugene (hideously anti-gun, I know). It was at night and was dark with no-one around (as far as I could tell), and my cousin was helping me move stuff into my apartment. Just as I begin walking to my door which was about 30 feet away, my neighbor and her boyfriend get out of their car and she stops, stunned. I plan on getting a case for it, but I needed to get it to the house (don't want to leave a gun in the car, especially in Eugene).
This is what prompted my curiosity - Eugene has no ordinance banning open carry, and even if it did, I have a CHL exempting me. I wasn't sure if the shotgun needed to be in a sling or cased. I hoped I could get it to my door at night without creating a scene - just my luck I suppose.
This is what prompted my curiosity - Eugene has no ordinance banning open carry, and even if it did, I have a CHL exempting me. I wasn't sure if the shotgun needed to be in a sling or cased. I hoped I could get it to my door at night without creating a scene - just my luck I suppose.
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Didn't have one for the gun - I had just purchased it.
Guy B. Meredith
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Has the neighbor been an Oregon resident long? I think it is a personal issue on her part.
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Can't really say - she's a student at the university so I suppose it's safe to suspect that she's probably very anti.
Just to clarify, to the best of your knowledge, it's legal to carry an unloaded rifle / shotgun in one's hands in this situation so long as they aren't threatening or acting stupid with it?
Just to clarify, to the best of your knowledge, it's legal to carry an unloaded rifle / shotgun in one's hands in this situation so long as they aren't threatening or acting stupid with it?
Nope, here in oregon once the firearm is in the vehicle it has to stay there for the life of the vehicle...
I would guess if you didnt live in portland, salem or eugene most folks wont cringe when they see someone comeing home from a range trip or hunting. Having said that check your city ordinances (sp?) as they might have something "funny".
I would guess if you didnt live in portland, salem or eugene most folks wont cringe when they see someone comeing home from a range trip or hunting. Having said that check your city ordinances (sp?) as they might have something "funny".
Guy B. Meredith
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Carrying an unloaded firearm from your car to your house should not be a problem anywhere--not even in California from whence I recently came. Other than enticing unscrupulous type to steal the firearm.
Carrying loaded is another issue. Legal in most areas of Oregon from what I understand, but I am not aware of local issues.
Again, check with your local police or post on http://www.northwestfirearms.com.
You can expect that college students are prejudiced by their state of origin.
BP44, I think there are probably too many friggin California style "liberals" in the aforementioned cities.
Carrying loaded is another issue. Legal in most areas of Oregon from what I understand, but I am not aware of local issues.
Again, check with your local police or post on http://www.northwestfirearms.com.
You can expect that college students are prejudiced by their state of origin.
BP44, I think there are probably too many friggin California style "liberals" in the aforementioned cities.
rodregier
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An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. If you are in venues where impulse buying of a long gun is possible, purchasing and carrying a gun sack (it's like a big sock with a drawstring) is cheap legal insurance.
http://www.amazon.com/Remington-Silicone-Treated-Sack-Multi-Green-18494/dp/B00014ZYNS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1326127631&sr=8-2
http://www.amazon.com/Remington-Silicone-Treated-Sack-Multi-Green-18494/dp/B00014ZYNS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1326127631&sr=8-2
Open carry is legal in Oregon. In some cities, it must be unloaded, Portland, Beaverton and a few others. So as long as it is unloaded, it is legal to walk down the street with it. To avoid having a neighbor call the police about a man with a gun, wrap it in a blanket if you don't have a case yet.
krupparms
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As You can see I live in Or. I was arrested once in Methford by the drug police. They were watching another home down the block, ( which they had a warrant for! ) in a good neighborhood. I was on my way to range &was going with the persons whos home I went into . The drug team was not there looking at that person or the house! But they saw me walk into home with my guns, so they came down and broke into home! As we were leagle they detained me for 6 HR.s! They told me I was under arrest for a very small knife I had. I was given my guns back &sent home with court date. After I was appointed a P.D. he called me & told to bring a gun to him so he could turn it over to D.A. so I could be charged w/CC without a permit. I refused to do so. But was still charged with it! I would not take plea bargain &asked for a jury trial. The day before court they dropped it all . I had to get a order from the judge to get knife back! It was &is leagle to do what I did.Backdoor gun control agin. I would still carry everything in openly as that is what the law says! That is why I did not get convicted of any thing. Just be careful and wait till dark if U can! Good luck.hermannr
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Your Oregon CHL is a handgun only license..that does not come into play here, you are talking long gun. Walking down the street, with the long gun open to view is perfectly legal, loaded or unloaded, just don't point it at anyone.
Even though perfectly legal to do so, I would not carry a AK or AR loaded and in plain view in Eugene...
Don't worry about it...it is 100% legal to carry your weapon up from your car to your apartment, loaded or unloaded.
PS: BTW: That is why you can find no law saying differently, there is none.
Even though perfectly legal to do so, I would not carry a AK or AR loaded and in plain view in Eugene...
Don't worry about it...it is 100% legal to carry your weapon up from your car to your apartment, loaded or unloaded.
PS: BTW: That is why you can find no law saying differently, there is none.
Ramone
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Legal or not, "anti" or not, *I* would certainly be concerned if I saw a person (regardless of how well I knew them) walking into my apartment building late at night with a shotgun in their hands.
In some similar cases (impulse buy of a rifle) I have either bought a 'gunsock' (5-10 bucks?) or went into the house, and came out with a blanket to wrap it in.
from another aspect- the less everyone knows about what's inside my apartment, the better.
In some similar cases (impulse buy of a rifle) I have either bought a 'gunsock' (5-10 bucks?) or went into the house, and came out with a blanket to wrap it in.
from another aspect- the less everyone knows about what's inside my apartment, the better.
Dnaltrop
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You live in Oregon.... Half of us are friendly or non-committal, the other half are On the verge of losing their bladder control at the sight.... Or Non-Committal.
Land of the "Man with a gun" police response to a Gun store.
"Police responded in force to reports of a man with a gun in Southeast Portland late Monday -- only to find a confused customer and staff at a gun store"
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/09/post_38.html
It's not Illegal, but get a Soft case, or use a bedsheet and a bungee cord if you're transporting arms to and fro. Never know when a load might shift in your trunk, or you'll catch a tree root with your toe, and the case takes the damage, not the gun.
I also drive a station wagon, so there is no real concealed area for my rifles, Driving a glass bubble with loose guns flopping around in the trunk for the world to look at like a half-baked museum case seems... wrong to me.
Then get your CHL , Not a bad card to have even if you don't intend to CCW. Especially in good 'ol weird Oregon.
Sometimes case-free travel is unavoidable, but as long as you aren't pointing it at anyone ( and they don't lie about you doing so when the police come and point out you've broken no law otherwise) you should be eventually left alone.
My concern is hand-carrying to and fro, When I OC it's clearly in a holster. Some really sensitive soul might claim you brandished your weapon, but I've watched people carry long guns onto the Light rail system from the gun show. Just watch your muzzle sweep.
Land of the "Man with a gun" police response to a Gun store.
"Police responded in force to reports of a man with a gun in Southeast Portland late Monday -- only to find a confused customer and staff at a gun store"
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/09/post_38.html
It's not Illegal, but get a Soft case, or use a bedsheet and a bungee cord if you're transporting arms to and fro. Never know when a load might shift in your trunk, or you'll catch a tree root with your toe, and the case takes the damage, not the gun.
I also drive a station wagon, so there is no real concealed area for my rifles, Driving a glass bubble with loose guns flopping around in the trunk for the world to look at like a half-baked museum case seems... wrong to me.
Then get your CHL , Not a bad card to have even if you don't intend to CCW. Especially in good 'ol weird Oregon.
Sometimes case-free travel is unavoidable, but as long as you aren't pointing it at anyone ( and they don't lie about you doing so when the police come and point out you've broken no law otherwise) you should be eventually left alone.
My concern is hand-carrying to and fro, When I OC it's clearly in a holster. Some really sensitive soul might claim you brandished your weapon, but I've watched people carry long guns onto the Light rail system from the gun show. Just watch your muzzle sweep.
Chuck Dye
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Read the Oregon Revised Statutes. The pertinent parts begin with 166.170, the meat of the matter begins with 166.250.
Edit to add: The Eugene City Code appears to begin to deal with the subject at 4.885, 'though it might also pay to peruse the sections pertaining to the Downtown Public Safety Zone Restrictions.
Reading the actual law is to be recommended to anyone on just about any subject. Web sites such as www.handgunlaw.us can be very good, but may not be up to date.
Edit to add: The Eugene City Code appears to begin to deal with the subject at 4.885, 'though it might also pay to peruse the sections pertaining to the Downtown Public Safety Zone Restrictions.
Reading the actual law is to be recommended to anyone on just about any subject. Web sites such as www.handgunlaw.us can be very good, but may not be up to date.
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