CCW in Post Office for FFL holder?

[Bubba613]

No, my example was to show that property rights differ between public and private institutions. If you can't connect the dots on this one, then I think we'll end this conversation now.

And if you don't see that the First Amendment is irrelevant to property rights then we ought to drop it as further discussion is futile.

 

[clutch]

My old postmaster was a gun guy. He flatly told me that he didn't have a problem but that was Gary and me. I haven't asked the new postmaster.

With Heller and subsequent lawsuits, is there any chance that the supremes might wipe this problem away? I can understand courts being restricted but not a postoffice. Courts should have gun lockers for ccw types though. I think Arizona has something like that.

Clutch

 

[NavyLCDR]

Now a store that also does the mail like was described. That is was a shop but they also had mail boxes and gave people their mail, mailed letters and sold stamps etc. This was a gray area. If he/she uses the same counter for sales as he/she does for PO business? This I am not sure about. Is the whole store PO Property? Just the part used for Mail? IF you are buying something from the PO then I would think it would fall under PO Regulations. But if you are buying some trinkets from the store but use the same counter would that be the PO then? That is what I am not sure about.

Gary,

What you are talking about is a commercial mail receiving agency covered in section 1.8 of the domestic mail manual:
http://pe.usps.gov/text/dmm300/508.htm#wp1046010

No part of a commercial mail receiving agency is post office property. It is simply a retail store that files a couple of forms with the post office to receive mail and deliver mail to the post service on behalf of their customers. The CMRA's interaction with the post office is no different than yours or my interaction with the post office. The mailman comes to their store, drops off all the mail there that is addressed to their customers, picks up outgoing mail waiting to be sent out and that's it.

As far as a CMRA doing postage - all they are doing is acting as a printing terminal for postage labels - no different than the self service kiosks in the post office lobby. When I mail a package at a CMRA, and the clerk says the postage will be $5.00 - the post office is actually charging the store's account for the postage just like if he had a postage account for shipping stuff mail order, the store is then recouping the payment they make to the post office from the customer. If I buy a book of stamps from a CMRA, again, they bought those stamps themselves as a regular post office customer.

None of the real property of the CMRA is under the control of the postal service, and the counter person at a CMRA is not an employee of the postal service, thus 49 CFR 232.1 does not apply at a CMRA.

While I understand your conservatism, in reality according to the same theory, I would not be able to carry in a Safeway store that sells stamps.