CCW=No NICS. Does this really happen?

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As stated - depends on the state.

Igpoobah - Anyone care to verify?
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Per the list referenced in post no. 2, it depends on the state. It used to work that way in Oregon, but then they realized they were missing out on the $10 a pop income, so decided that a CHL no longer qualified to bypass the NICS check. Not sure about other gun stores in Oregon or how other states work, but where I usually shop we can at least avoid any waiting period and can walk out with the firearms immediately upon completing the transaction.
 
my understanding (as a dealer) is it depends on the state law. In our state there used to be a 3 day waiting period on HG's that was waived for CCW holders. As far as I know every transaction be it a sale transfer or redemption of firearm has to have a 4473 as part of it. In my state that is the case anyway. (AL) Now it's instant...unless you are delayed (max. allowable delay= 3 federal business days)

Whether or not it's called in all the time in other states I wouldn't know. You can call your local BATF field office who will likely transfer you the to technical branch in WV if it's something they can't answer. Most knowledgable dealers in your state should certainly know.

I've talked to 3 BATF agents and gotten 3 answers before on techical issues before. Like the wallet holsters being a AOW (not the holster...not the gun...but the gun in the wallet holster IS...go figure...lost $5 on that one) So I asked if it's an AOW that just means I need to buy a tax-stamp right? So how do I do that...what paperwork do I need? Nobody in the ATF seemed to know from the first agent to the regional senior agent (whatever his title was...nice older guy) to the techno weenies at in (I think WV?)
 
The last two gun purchases at a gun show and shop saw a NICS check even with my VA permit.

The only real 'perk' to having a CC permit is the one gun a month waiver.
 
Yes, it happens, in Texas. Does not apply to all states (despite what many Texans believe). I recall that Pennsylvania's CCL doesn't bypass NICS.
 
Here in NC, not only does a CCL allow you the dealer to skip the NICs check, but with a CCL you also don't need to get a handgun purchase permit from the sheriff every time you purchase a handgun.
 
In Oregon it doesn't do a thing. Still have to call in a check and charge you the $10. Apparently they trust you to carry a gun, but don't trust you to purchase one. :banghead:
 
Used to be the case in Florida until a few years ago.

Wanna hear something really stupid?

We have to call in police officers who are buying a duty weapon.
 
I haven't submitted to a single NICS check since I got my CCW (except for NFA items on my trust, which I don't blame the dealer). But for pistols and long guns, no way.
 
My only complaint is that you still can't buy pistols out of state even if that state honors your CCW permit.
 
In Oregon it doesn't do a thing. Still have to call in a check and charge you the $10. Apparently they trust you to carry a gun, but don't trust you to purchase one.
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What? You dont understand? Seems to make perfect sense to me....
See, the reson is.....erm.....uh....'cause, you see........IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN!

There, now that I've explained it, does it make more sense to you?

:neener::D:banghead:
 
I notied that some states allow this and others don't. Is there any rhymn or reason as to which states do and don't? Obviously I'm asking becuase as a CCW holder in the State of Colorado, I would still have to have a background check, but other states with CO CCW reciprocity (ie substantially similar CCW laws) allow their citizens to forego the background check with CCW.

What makes CO different from UT, AR, AZ, TX, etc that CCW doesn't exempt us?
 
Utah CFP holders are exempt from NCIC checks and therefore do not pay the $7.50 for BG check. It didn't take long before I had made up what I spent on my class and application fees in savings on the checks. I buy at least one gun per month and the BG checks will add up! I too am disappointed that a holder cannot buy handguns out of state even in reciprocal states! Kinda bizarre. Did you know that one cannot hunt with a suppressor in the state of Wyoming? unrelated yet interesting info on a seemingly gun friendly state.
 
Even if I didn't carry concealed I'd have a Texas CHL for this reason alone.
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Because i am not well adapted to texas gulf coast weather, nor shaped in a way that allows me to carry concealed while wearing light clothing. the ability to skip the NICS check makes up about 90% of the utility that i see in getting a CHL here. we're just now starting to have days when i could even possibly be able to dress comfortably and also conceal a pistol on my person.

i know it OT but I'd like to see Texas have Open Carry, it would my MY life while living here a little easier and comfortable.

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Here in NC, not only does a CCL allow you the dealer to skip the NICs check, but with a CCL you also don't need to get a handgun purchase permit from the sheriff every time you purchase a handgun.
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And since it's pretty much a given that i will wind up moving back to NC, me thinks that getting an NC permit will probably be my first "gun related outlay of cash/time" upon my return.
 
I haven't submitted to a single NICS check since I got my CCW (except for NFA items on my trust, which I don't blame the dealer). But for pistols and long guns, no way.
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Now see, that's funny, because in the same section on the 4473, it specifically says that NFA items don't have to be called in to NICS.

Yeah, I was also kind of wondering exactly who decides which states qualify and which don't. If it's a state thing (the state Department of Public Safety) or if it's an ATF thing, and they have to review each state's CCW permit requirements, or what. Basically, who do I have to petition to get Maine on the list? Hrmm, time to make some calls......when I wake up.
 
Here in NC, not only does a CCL allow you the dealer to skip the NICs check, but with a CCL you also don't need to get a handgun purchase permit from the sheriff every time you purchase a handgun.
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It wasnt the 5 bucks that got on my nerves, it was having to go to downtown asheville...
 
In Georgia a carry permit waives the NICS check.

At one time, it waived the need for filling out the 4473 altogether, but that was discontinued. Guess they still need a paper trail.

Buying a gun here, they just ask, "Got a carry permit?", while filling the form out.
It sounds about like when you're writing a check and they say, "Got your driver's license?".
 
Now see, that's funny, because in the same section on the 4473, it specifically says that NFA items don't have to be called in to NICS.
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My dealer does them on me because I use a trust. His reasoning is that since technically the trust owns the NFA items, he'd like to do a BG check on whoever will be handling the items "for" the trust (ie, me).

Technically he's not required to do that, but I can't say I blame him... I'd hate to be the SOT who transferred a silencer to a felon.
 
I think the reason some states still call NICS even if you have a CWP is because NICS shows a current status. A CWP card doesn't indicate current status unless you call.
 
CCW holders are exempt from the NICS
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Yup. Work's that way here in Iowa. The only NICS check I've ever had, is when I renew my CCW permit. Never had a check for just a handgun purchase.

Joe
 
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