CDNN has Winchester rifles for sale

[krang]

CDNN sent me an email on their sale on Win rifles. Might be a good time since they may be ceasing production.Here's the list they sent me

www.cdnnsports.com
Winchester announced that they will be closing down their American
plant in Connecticut. This marks the end of an American Legend!
There will be no more Model 94 Lever Actions, 9410 Shotguns or
70 Series Rifles Made. We still have a large supply of Winchesters.
Some are still below distributor cost. Don't sit by and watch the
prices keep going up, get yours NOW!

CDNN SPORTS HAS WINCHESTERS IN STOCK!

Here is a list of our latest inventory at the time of this email.

JUST CALL 800-588-9500 TO ORDER WHILE SUPPLIES LAST!

9410 Packer Lever Shotgun·410Ga·20" Barrel·$489.99

9422 Tribute Legacy·22Mag·22" Barrel·Pistol Grip·$499.99

70C Ultimate Shadow·243·24" Stainless Barrel·Synthetic·$599.99

70C Ultimate Shadow·308·24" Stainless Barrel·Synthetic·$599.99

70C Ultimate Shadow·7mm-08·24" Stainless Barrel·Synthetic·$599.99

70 Coyote·7mm WSM·24" Stainless Barrel·Laminate·$499.99

70 Coyote·223WSSM·24" Stainless Barrel·Laminate·$499.99

70 Coyote·223WSSM·24" Blue Barrel·Laminate·$499.99

70 Coyote·243WSSM·24" Stainless Barrel·Laminate·$499.99

70 Ultimate Shadow·223WSSM·22" Stainless Barrel·Synthetic$499.99

70 Ultimate Shadow·243WSSM·22" Stainless Barrel·Synthetic$499.99

70 Ultimate Shadow Camo·223WSSM·22" Stainless Barrel·$499.99

70 Ultimate Shadow Camo·223WSSM·22" Blue Barrel·$499.99

70 Ultimate Shadow Camo·243WSSM·22" Stainless Barrel·$499.99

70 Featherweight·223WSSM·22" Blue Barrel·Walnut·$549.99

70 Featherweight·243WSSM·22" Blue Barrel·Walnut·$549.99

70 Super Shadow·308·22" Blue Barrel·Synthetic·$439.99

70 Stealth II·223WSSM·26" Heavy Blue Barrel·Synthetic·$499.99

70 Stealth II·243WSSM·26" Heavy Blue Barrel·Synthetic·$499.99

1885 Low Wall·17Mach2·24" Barrel·Case Colored·Walnut·$599.99

1886 Black Powder·45-90BP·26" Octagon Barrel·Walnut·$999.99

1886 Take Down·45-90BP·26" Octagon Barrel·Walnut·$1299.99

1895 Take Down·405Win·24" Barrel·Walnut·$1199.99

 

[rbernie]

1895 Take Down·405Win·24" Barrel·Walnut·$1199.99

This is the one that I want SOOOOOO badly. Unfortunately, it's just not in the financial cards......

 

[Father Knows Best]

Don't worry about it. I'm pretty sure that USRAC (the company closing its plant) didn't make that one. The 1892, 1885 and 1895 "Winchester" brand rifles made over the last few years have generally been manufactured by Miroku in Japan, under license from Olin Corp. (which owns the Winchester firearms brand). USRAC, a company owned by Belgium's Fabrique Nationale Herstal, made the model 94, 9410, 9422, 70 and 1300. It's only the FNH/USRAC models that are affected by the plant closing.

In other words, don't get scared into paying a premium for non-USRAC models. They continue to be produced normally.

 

[Texfire]

About the only "modern" Winchester I'm interested in is one in 30-30, and I don't hunt yet so that's pretty low on my priority list.

My pre-1900 Winchester wants are pretty well covered by the various replica manufacturers. Winchester really missed the boat when Cowboy Shooting started taking off. If they had rereleased their historical rifles in stock configuration then Uberti et al wouldn't have had a chance.

Other than that I'd love a 1895 in 30.06 or 7.62x54R, but I'm not interested in one in .405Win, and certainly not at that price.

Tex

 

[Father Knows Best]

Winchester really missed the boat when Cowboy Shooting started taking off. If they had rereleased their historical rifles in stock configuration then Uberti et al wouldn't have had a chance.

Uberti has been making replicas of the toggle link Winchesters (models 1860 "Henry", 1866 "Yellowboy" and 1873) since long before cowboy action shooting existed. I don't know when they started, but I know of examples from the 1970s, and perhaps a lot earlier. Navy Arms founder Val Forgett (may he rest in peace...) had a lot to do with it.

Cowboy action shooting got started in the early 1980s in California by a group of guys who decided to shoot an IPSC match with the cowboy guns, and dress like their boyhood heroes of the silver screen. It became wildly popular at their club, and started spreading. Still, it didn't really become a nationally known shooting sport until the 1990s, and didn't reach enough critical mass to start attracting the attention of most gun manufacturers until the mid-90s. Uberti (with its toggle link Winchesters), Rossi and Browning/Miroku (with their 1892 Winchesters) and Marlin (model 1894) already dominated the market by then. To get into that market, U.S. Repeating Arms would have had to invest lots of money in the tooling and training needed to make new (to USRAC) models, and build them in a higher labor cost market. Their only marketing advantage would have been the Winchester name on the barrel (which, incidentally, would not have been historically accurate for some models, as original 1860 and 1866 Winchesters never had the Winchester name on them). Finally, those old toggle link designs have very weak actions (by modern standards) that are unsafe with lots of modern smokeless hunting loads. The bottom line is that USRAC probably would need to get at least twice as much money as Uberti or Rossi for the same product in order to make any kind of profit. Even then, with the license (from Olin) to use the Winchester name expiring in 2006, they had to consider how long they would be making that profit. I can easily see why the marketing and financial gurus at USRAC decided not to try to enter that particular marketplace. They were unlikely to make enough money in the short time they had available to recoup the investment it would require.

 

[Texfire]

Yeah but...

Okay rain on my ignorance parade with facts.

Tex

ps- Actually that was quite enlightening, thanks FNB.