The Evangelist Cowboy
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You carry a bar with you? I'll have a bourbon then, neat.I have been carrying a BAR ever since.
"You just have to dress around your firearm."
You carry a bar with you? I'll have a bourbon then, neat.I have been carrying a BAR ever since.
"You just have to dress around your firearm."
Didn't realize that the Dallas area had become that bad. It was different about 4 decades agoNo. Actually the area I live in is actually pretty nice.
However I work in bad areas. I’m regularly responding to shootings, stabbings, aggravated assaults, rapes and assaults.
I regularly pass through bad areas and my brother lives in one. I’m over there trying to help him out with things pretty much every day I’m off.
I also grew up in a bad area (Los Angeles area. Highland Park and El Monte Ca) before finally moving to Texas.
Perhaps this has all colored my thinking. Doesn’t change the fact that approximately three weeks ago I saw a guy get shot on Ferguson rd in Dallas on my way somewhere else.
Living in a “good area” doesn’t mean too much. Criminals operate in good areas too. They drive through. They set up shop by renting houses in areas that aren’t under close scrutiny by the police. People let that sort of thing color their thinking. Sure, less things happen but it doesn’t eliminate it completely.
Wihtout reading ANY of this discussion, I can say that EVERYWHERE was different four decades ago.Didn't realize that the Dallas area had become that bad. It was different about 4 decades ago
Depends on the part of Dallas you mean. Some of its really nice. George Bush nice.Didn't realize that the Dallas area had become that bad. It was different about 4 decades ago
Depends on the part of Dallas you mean. Some of its really nice. George Bush nice.
Some of it’s not so nice. Ghetto and trailer park not nice.
The issue is not equipment. A person with a even a snub couldve solved this issue. If equipment is your over all factor you need training. Don't care if you were military or police more training is always better than less.No more revolvers for me for SD/HD. Purchased a 17 shot Beretta and my next buy will hopefully be a CX-4.
In my fantasy world after retirement I decided that I no longer needed a big honking SA because;
I didn't go out after dark normally,
I didn't carry cash,
I'm a big guy,
I didn't do anything illegal or immoral,
I didn't go into bad neighborhoods,
I own 7 dogs,
My house has bars,
I have an alarm system,
We have a pretty decent PD,
I'm a pretty good shot,
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Here's reality;
Crooks don't work alone,
Felons don't care,
Teen criminals think it's cool,
Mental illness abounds,
Guns are proliferate,
Criminals are stupid and can be expected to act illogically,
People in general are out of control.
Dirty Harry could do 16 takes on the Coffee Shop Scene, John Wayne shot blanks at tree limbs wired with explosives and Charles Bronson, Yul Brynner, and all the rest were actors.
I want an advantage, there is no such thing as a fair fight, there is winning and losing, life or death, health or disability .
I still hear my dad to this day, "Don't go down dark alleys and don't get caught up in a crowd." Even armed I listen to him.
What pros are you speaking of ? The same people whos shooting scores went down after the move to semi autos? Equipment is not nearly as important as training and mindset. A J frame would have done the job but it seems as if the people there didn't even have one. Your likely speaking from an armchair right now so don't give that tired argument that your experience trumps others. I don't care if you've "been there done that" the issue is would you do it again.Like saying the best driver in the world will lose the Indie 500 if he decides to drive a Ford Pinto but only because he needed more training.
I could carry a 5 shot that I shoot mediocre, a 6 shooter that I shoot well or a 15 shot SA that i shoot as well but have the luxury of a better grip, better sights, easier reloading capabilities, a rail system etc. Theres a reason professionals don't use revolvers and it's not because they lack proficiency but that a SA gives one a better edge and results are what counts, not playing the game. As for training, I've done mine, I'm not in the hero business anymore, I may not cut and run but I'm not sticking my neck out either, my opinion comes from my lessons, not an armchair and luck plays a bigger role than many think but if some guy thinks he's going to hunt me down in a library or supermarket he better think twice and if in the same pocket I can stuff a Jframe or a G19, you better believe that in this day and age it's a G19.
Just as an after thought, did you see all those cops shooting the antifa twerp with Jframes? Me neither.
That's the thing though. It's not happening in places you don't feel comfortable. This isn't happening in the alleyway in Brooklyn or Compton. It's happening when your wife and kids are at Walmart, When grandma is at the local farmers market, when your at Friday/Saturday/Sunday or whatever service. Situational awareness is a big deal but we cannot lower our guard in any area as there is no such thing as safe. Not even your home.No changes for me. Same gun , same situational awareness and I don't go to places that I don't feel comfortable in.
That is very understandable for any current or retired LEO or military trained person.I’m probably going after him though. 35 years as a cop. Hard to stop that instinct.
Running about with a gun in an active shooter is about as dangerous as it gets.
What pros are you speaking of ? The same people whos shooting scores went down after the move to semi autos? Equipment is not nearly as important as training and mindset. A J frame would have done the job but it seems as if the people there didn't even have one. Your likely speaking from an armchair right now so don't give that tired argument that your experience trumps others. I don't care if you've "been there done that" the issue is would you do it again.
I hadnt seen that clip either. As of my understanding it was the Walmart not the mall. If people are not engaging there is no point to carrying a gun, that's my view and I'll stick to it. Regarding the citizenship of the people there, I cant comment on that. Im sure there was a few who don't belong here however that also doesn't warrant them getting killed like roadkill in the street. There was a story if a couple shielding their baby from harm and ended up dying, a man saw that and threw coke cans against the shooter in an attempt to draw fire away from the kid and the man was shot instead. Both he and the babe lived. That man had more cajones without a gun then people here who carry but say they wouldn't fight.I only saw one interview where a guy said he had a gun on him. He mentioned something about drawing it, but then getting away from the area. I never saw that clip again to get a better idea of what he said.
I'm also will to get that a large percentage of people in that mall were not citizens and would not legally have guns.
People were there pointing phones at the guy watching him kill people, imagine if those hands were filled with 9mms and .38s. As far as I know (and if theres others go ahead and list them) only two people did something one of saved a little boy and the other saved several children. If you have the capability to stop something and you don't your just as guilty as that guy with the AK no ands, ifs, or buts. You can get your family to safety and then engage. I don't know about you but I'm the one out and about most times so it's me alone and I only worry about the threat, but to not engage and seeing people die I don't know how a person would be able to live with themselves.I basically agree with 460 Shooter. The reason I carry is to protect me and my family, not someone else. If you are not willing to protect you and your family don't expect me to put my family in jeopardy for you.
And if you don't someone else suffers. There is a risk and a big one at that and no one here is denying that, but if you nothing body counts are higher we've seen thatIf I were to get shot and killed or injured by someone with a gun trying to save someone who won't try to save themselves, then my family suffers.