Charge master Link worth it or not…….

horsemen61

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Hello everyone,


I am
Looking into getting a rcbs charge master Link right now I use an old Lee Prefect powder measure and I am just curious about the charge master link?

how does it hold up over time?
How accurate is it with stick powder?
Is it easy to use?
Do you trust it to be accurate?
How long does it take to get a charge that’s ready to use?
How is the repeatability?


So anyone who has one please chime in :)
 
I don't have that model but do use a early model CM1500, 5+ yrs old and still going strong. It does take a few minutes to warm up, sensitive to air drafts like most are. That is what the wind screen is for. I check calibration every time I setup to use it. It has not needed re-calibration in a very long time. I use check weights to check calibration and I compare the load dispensed on my GemPro 250. In most all cases it well within the spec accuracy of 0.1 gr. I normally detect a 0.04 gr deviation. It's about all I use for loading rifle cartridges.
 
I don't have the Link, but I have a chargemaster Lite. RCBS claims the Link is built off of the Lite "foundation". I assume the guts are pretty much the same, with the Link having Blue Tooth technology so you can stare at your phone while you are loading. Give the people what they want.

As to your questions, mine is very accurate. Every charge that I have checked on my Gempro is w/in 0.02 gr., usually right on. I only use it for stick powders so they are not an obstacle in any way. But the accuracy comes with a price, and that is the last 1/2 grain, or so, dispenses with glacial speed. I think it is set that way to allow the load cell to catch up before it shuts off. If I had to guess, a 25 gr. charge takes about 25-30 seconds to drop. There might be modifications to speed it up, and if there are I'm sure someone will chime in shortly. I've not tried to do so, since if I'm in a hurry I throw charges with a Uniflow or a 550B. I use mine for small batches of rifle ammo and seat the charge I just dispensed while the next one is dropping. IMO its easier than weighing and trickling on a beam scale, and in the end probably about the same time wise.

I've had my Lite for 3 1/2 years, and so far no problems.
 
I don't have the Link, but I have a chargemaster Lite. RCBS claims the Link is built off of the Lite "foundation". I assume the guts are pretty much the same, with the Link having Blue Tooth technology so you can stare at your phone while you are loading. Give the people what they want.

As to your questions, mine is very accurate. Every charge that I have checked on my Gempro is w/in 0.02 gr., usually right on. I only use it for stick powders so they are not an obstacle in any way. But the accuracy comes with a price, and that is the last 1/2 grain, or so, dispenses with glacial speed. I think it is set that way to allow the load cell to catch up before it shuts off. If I had to guess, a 25 gr. charge takes about 25-30 seconds to drop. There might be modifications to speed it up, and if there are I'm sure someone will chime in shortly. I've not tried to do so, since if I'm in a hurry I throw charges with a Uniflow or a 550B. I use mine for small batches of rifle ammo and seat the charge I just dispensed while the next one is dropping. IMO its easier than weighing and trickling on a beam scale, and in the end probably about the same time wise.

I've had my Lite for 3 1/2 years, and so far no problems.


Thanks for the info!
 
Depends on what you’re reloading, it does a great job for reloading my big bore revolvers and like Skgreen said rifle rounds. If you are looking to reload stuff for higher volume semi auto shooting like .9mm, .223 etc you are in for a long loading session, it is very slow.
As for metering powder, mine has been great from stick powder to the fine, powdery magnum stuff.
 
Ok, I'm an old guy and some of my hand loading equipment is old as well. I have what is probably the FIRST version of the RCBS electronic powder dispenser. I bought it in roughly 1996 or 7. It's a stand-alone unit that links to the RCBS digital scale via an I.R. light and sensor. The dispenser was originally made by PACT. About 15 years ago, I learned that PACT would do an upgrade to the internal motors that would substantially speed up the dispensing operation. I sent it off to PACT and have been totally happy with it since, although it seems they simply swapped it with an upgraded unit. Instead of the RCBS green unit I sent them, it came back as a PACT gray colored unit. Ah, well, color really doesn't matter. What I'm getting at is, my original dispenser still works very well and I would guess the newer ones would need to work better and faster... I wouldn't hesitate to buy a newer version. (I don't know how you guys use your electronic dispensers, but here's what I've found works the best: I set the dispenser to throw .1 grain LESS than my intended charge weight, and then just touch the button to trickle the powder very slowly to bring the scale to the exact weight I want. I've found it to be very consistent that way. I also zero the scale about every 10 rounds, to limit any stacking error the digital scale may compound. Works for me.)
 
I have had a Chargemnaster LITE for about 3 years or so. VERY reliable and very accurate. The other day, I was loading multiply-sized loads to do a ladder test for my Cowoby Action Shooting, and because of the low power loads used, and the fact that I am using the same cartridges in both the rifle and the revolvers, the loading required loading 3.2g, 3.4g, 3.6g, 3.8g, 4.0g, and 4.2g. I am loading on a Dillon XL750, and I needed to change the amount of powder every 20 rounds.I was amazed at how well that Lite supported this task.

It was SO consistent that when I was trying to set the Dillon powder dispenser to 3.2g, I needed only a very few changes to the adjustment screw on the Dillon to dial it in and get CONSISTENT weights on the Lite. In fact, once I had the 3.2g dialed in, I dropped in one charge from the Dillon after another, without removing the previous charges, reasoning that sooner or later the accumulating total would "miss a beat" and be "off' by a tenth or more. But that did not happen. The total on the scale read EXACTLY 3.2g, then 6.4g, then 9.6g, etc. until i finished at exactly 32.0g.

During the process of setting up each individual weight after that, the consistency of the Lite made it easy to see after just a few charges at each trial weight, exactly what direction I need to go (more weight or less), and how MUCH more or less, because I could see what I call "the incremental creep" after just a few drops at the current trial weight.

What I mean is that when trying for 3.4g, when I got to the point where the Lite displayed 3.4g, I kept adding subsequent drops from the Dillon to the pan by removing the pan from the platen, adding the powder just dropped, replacing the pan on the platen, and reading the new cumulative total weight. If after 4 "3.4g" charges were in the pan, the pan displayed "13.5g instead of the expected "13.6g", I knew that I was very close to a true 3.4g, but just a little low. In fact, probably (13.6-13.5)/4 = 0.025g low. (I say "probably" because you cannot truly expect that 13.5g to be EXACTLY 13.5, as the 0.1 scale resolution means it could be merely closer to 13.5 than to 13.6., and that's just the display resolution. There is obviously also some actual "scale" error since this is not a costly "laboratory" scale.

So I would make a very slight adjustment to the Dillon adjustment screw, and try again to do 4 or 5 drops. Once I got to the point where the sequential reads were 3.4, then 6.8, then 10.2, then 13.6, I KNEW I was VERY close to the perfect 3.4g I wanted.

Using this technique allowed me to attain better final accuracy than merely stopping the first time the scale "rounded" to display "3.4g".

I am impressed by the Chargemaster Lite. The Link, with its Bluetooth capability probably offers some extra features. Like maybe the ability to accumulate the actual readings on your bLuetooth equipped laptop so that you have an exact record of every charge you loaded. If you then assemble your cartridges and load your ammo box in the same order was you drop the charges, you have a solid record of what you are actually shooting for each individual round.

Jim G
 
One caution though: Certain types of room and auxiliary lights CAN affect any electronic scale. Test your unit fully for consistent repeatability and zero drift before using in production, just in case you have one or lights in the room that are affecting the scale.

Jim G
 
One caution though: Certain types of room and auxiliary lights CAN affect any electronic scale. Test your unit fully for consistent repeatability and zero drift before using in production, just in case you have one or lights in the room that are affecting the scale.

I had to remove on type of lightbulb. It was causing the scale to drift a bit at times. I knew that it was the light bulb for sure ebcause when I set up the scale in a different room with different lighting, the problem disappeared. Once I removed that lightbulb from the lading room, the problem disappeared.

Jim G
 
Hello everyone,


I am
Looking into getting a rcbs charge master Link right now I use an old Lee Prefect powder measure and I am just curious about the charge master link?

how does it hold up over time?
How accurate is it with stick powder?
Is it easy to use?
Do you trust it to be accurate?
How long does it take to get a charge that’s ready to use?
How is the repeatability?


So anyone who has one please chime in :)
Dad and I use the "normal" Chargemaster, and it's not a bad little unit! Makes it easier and less time consuming than hand measuring every case of powder. It's got a learning curve where it has to warm up and then it will settle in and give you repeatable charge weights. The main downside is that the powder goes below the dispenser in a lower part where you can drain it and so it won't pick up that powder so it can sometimes be a pain if you are only doing a small run like 20 rounds. Overall, I would recommend it though! Sure beats using scoops and a digital scale!
 
Jim G is 100% right about electrical interference. I had my dispenser on the same circuit as a wine cooler (yep, in my shop :) ) and it did all kinds of weird things to the way the powder dispenser worked. It took a call to tech support to diagnose the problem correctly.
 
Has anyone else noticed cell phone interference? If I remember, I put it on the other side of the room. If not, things start acting wonky.
 
Has anyone else noticed cell phone interference? If I remember, I put it on the other side of the room. If not, things start acting wonky.

I'm pretty sure I had my iPhone in my pants pocket the other day when I loaded 120 rounds for ladder testing, 20 rounds each at 0.2g increments, and experienced no issues on the Chargemaster Lite (not LINK).

Since the Chargemaster LINK is intended to communicate via Bluetooth with cellphones, I would THINK they woud have ensured that the cellphone won't disturb the accuracy of the Link.

Jim G
 
This is what I was talking about. I've noticed the same with my Lite and Gempro when I set the phone beside it.



Maybe they shielded the electronics somehow. Anxious to get a report.
 
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