Charter Arms Bulldog

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Lately, I've been thinking about getting a charter arms bulldog .44 special. I was just wondering about the quality since the price is rather low in comparison to other guns i'm considering buying. If anyone has any advice or positive or negative experiences with this particular gun, i would really appreciate hearing about it. Also, is it small enough for me to use for a CCW? (I'm 6' 3" 240 lbs or so).
 
I know a guy who CCWs one.
I've heard mostly negative things about stuff from the Charter Arms 2000 company. I've read that the older generations are better, but don't know what serial number runs you should look for.
 
One of my shooting buddies had one for a while. OK gun, not the best quality but OK. It does have a kick to it, since it only something like 17oz. I think the guy traded it for a taurus .44 magnum revolver. Taurus makes some small barreled .44 mags, this way your not stuck shooting just .44 special.
 
I've handled the bulldog. It feels really cheap. Lots of slack, and play. Trigger and hammer pull nothing to write home about. Yes, you could carry it.

Instead, I purchased a 44 tracker in 2.5 inch. Much better quality.

IMHO, the best you can get in a snub nose 44 special in the S&W 696. Real accurate, and has the action of a Smith.
 
If the Bulldog had any redeeming qualities, I don't know them, but I've owned at least one, maybe more, and found it to be a formidible, lightweight design. I have, however, found that the Charter Arms I've owned (including some .38s) tended to bind at times. I also believe five shots to be too limiting overall.

The build of the gun just leaves one hell of a lot to be desired. If you want a revolver, I'd stick with a Smith & Wesson, Ruger or even a Taurus. Even the worst Taurus is better than the best Charter Arms. A defense handgun should be shot a lot and unless you're going to be buying two revolvers, a Charter Arms just won't hold up over a long haul. If you don't shoot it and keep it mostly in a dresser drawer, it's okay, but I wouldn't bet my life on one.

Six .38 +Ps are ballistically better than five .44s and that's something else to consider. But best of luck whatever you decide. If you get one and find it to be perfectly functional and suitable, please post here. I'm only going by the Bulldogs of the 1970s and '80s.

Addendum: You might check this review for an opposing opinion. Remember, the reviewed gun is a factory prepared ringer and may or may not be better than the one you get.

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I had one back in the 1980s. Really liked it for carry, but shooting it hurt a lot, because its only 17 oz. Also, under the stress of firing it, I remember that a pin kept working its way out, and I had to push it back in periodically. It was a pin connected to its central action in some way, so it was important. And this was when they were making them well. I still would like to have it (wish I neve sold it). Something about a blued, five shot, 17 oz, .44 Special revolver that appealing to me.
 
Of course now that i did a bit of research and see what nice guns they are... i see that they're also discontinued:p Any idea where i might be able to pick one up either online, or in michigan? thanks in advance, see ya later
 
That S&W you're looking for will set you back
at lease 600.00 bucks for you in decent shape
and it only a five shot.Taurus was making a
2" 44 spl in blued or stainless but they have
been discontinued but pop up for around
300 dollars or so.Taurus is making a 5 shot
44mag with a 2.25" barrel in blue or stainless
that run around 335 dollars on gunbroker.All
i've seen have been ported if that's a concern.
 
Six hundred dollars for a revolver is too high. The best thing to do is go to a gun store and see what is best for the $$$. At ranges you can also usually find a "For Sale" board (unless you live in a demented state like Maryland). Auctionarms and GunsAmerica (.com) also may be good places to check.

I hate to say it, but for CCW, I prefer autos. Outdoors and in trail use, .357 mag revolvers have a lot going for them. The Ruger Speed-Six is a great medium sized revolver, but it's heavier than the 5-shot lightweights.

Taurus may be the best bet.
 
I love the caliber, size and configuration. I have a stainless one. Another thing I like is that it's not ported.
What I don't like is that it's a slopply, wobbly loose cheap gun and even when new, the cylinder slop was worse than any used revolver I ever had including RG.
In spite of it's faults, I carry it often when hiking in the mountains.

I sure wish Ruger or S+W would make something just like it, maybe with a longer barrel, one that has the 5 round cylinder and not ported. I'd buy one.
 
I can't comment on the newer ones, but I have a 3" Bulldog and a 2 1/2" Bulldog Pug stamped Stratford , Conn. I think Charter got it pretty well right for those who want a large caliber carry revolver. They are light weight, compact, and will reliably hit the vital zones at 7 yards. Because they are light, recoil is pretty harsh but not brutal. I wouldn't recommend trying high velocity loads- stick with 240 grain semi-wadcutters or flat nose. It's a big bullet that hits pretty hard
 
I've got an older one,that I still occasionally carry.

no problems at all.it sure ain't no S&W,but it it works everytime.

YMMV

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I have a Charter 2000 Bulldog and I have found it to be well made, accurate, and reliable. No compaints here.
 
I've had a couple of the older blue steel 3-inchers. No complaints. When they came out they were the only ball game in town, if you wanted a small 44 caliber gun. The trigger pin would "walk" occasionally, but other than that (and a little recoil) I liked 'em. They don't kick near as hard as the current generation of lightweight .357's, but they don't have the option of as many different loads as the .357.
 
Bulldog .44 Spl.

I have an old Bulldog 3" .44 Spl. I bought it for a snake gun for the creeks and swamps we roamed around in and it is great for that. What suprised me was its accuracy. WOW.
4.2 to 4.8 Grs. 700X and either Lee cast 208 Gr. WC lubed with Alox or a Magnus 215 Gr. SWC, or Magnus 240 Gr. SWC would shoot little one hole groups at 10 paces! I have carried it on long hikes in the woods loaded with the 240 Gr. Magnus and 4.8 Grs. 700X and felt quite well armed.

( 4.8 Grs. 700X and 240 Gr. bullets is MAX - REDUCE 10% to start! )
 

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Purchased my 3" .44 Spl Bulldog NIB back in 1980. I have put approximately 2000 rounds through it over the years and carry it daily these days loaded with Georgia Arms 200 gr. Gold Dot HP's (850 FPS). I can not complain as the Bulldog is just as tight today as it was back in 1980. It is light, but has proven to be just as reliable and accurate as my Colt DS (.38 Spl) or Ruger SP101 (.357) and that is why I carry it these days in the ccw role. :) It is not a range gun designed to handle 10's of thousands of rounds but I find it to be just what the doctor ordered for ccw.

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I've owned several throughout the years. All were servicable and reliable, but were sold or traded for other things. Load of choice in all was 200 Gr Silvertips.

Picked up a mint pre- 80 blued example a month or so ago with the intent to send it off to Mag-na-Port to do one of their old "backpacker" conversions.
 
Do a Search on this and other firearms forums for Charter Arms Bulldog revolvers ...

I generally don't have strong feelings when it comes to handguns, especially defensive or 'service' handguns. They're just tools to my thinking. It takes a nicely made SA revolver to get my juices flowing.;) Aesthetics and nostalgia come into play when SA revolvers are the subject.

Anyway ...

I've owned a couple of the .44 Bulldogs. 1 blued & 1 stainless. Mine were both from the end of the 80's, as I recall.

The Blued one was so-so. I once sold it to a friend, who was also a cop. He soon asked for his money returned because of the poor, inconsistent accuracy. He had been using W-W 200gr STHP's, and I remember learning that W-W later revised that bullet's bearing surface to resolve reported stabilization complaints. Maybe that was the problem for my friend. I hadn't experienced any real accuracy issues with the Federal 200gr LHP or the standard 246gr LRN loads in that pistol. The functioning was rough and gritty, though.

The stainless one, however, wouldn't reliably function, even when dry-fired, and even after 2 or 3 trips back to the factory for repair (it's been so long I can't remember whether I put up with it for 2 or 3 trips back to the factory). Our agency's experienced Colt and S&W revolver armorer tried to figure out what was wrong with the Bulldog (he'd cleaned up the action for another Bulldog owner previously), but was unsuccessful in figuring out what was wrong with mine. He finally told me to send it back to the factory. After the frustrating experiences attempting to get the factory to correct whatever was wrong with it, I finally traded it in to the gunstore who had been handling the shipping & receiving while I was trying to get it repaired. They were aware of my problems with the gun, and were still willing to take the gun in on trade. They said they had a bored gunsmith who was willing to fiddle with it, and I just wanted rid of the gun at that point. ;) I mean, after the last trip back to the factory, I unpacked the box and removed the Bulldog there at the gunstore counter to inspect it. I tried cycling the trigger DA with the EMPTY 'repaired' Bulldog, and was unable to make it all the way around the empty cylinder before the gun seized up ... just like it had consistently done during both live and dry-fire since it was NIB. Once again, the factory letter was lacking in details, and only mentioned the gun had been repaired. :scrutiny: That was the last straw for me.

Naturally, other folks have had better experiences than mine. I, however, have little interest in ever trying another one. Maybe if they change their lockwork design. Probably not, though. Too many other revolvers available.

FWIW, the .38 Undercover model seemed to earn a better reputation from the folks I knew who owned them, but none of them shot them very often, either.

I'd sooner own a Taurus than another Charter Arms.

Luck to you.
 
Problems with NEW bulldog 44

I just brought home a BRAND NEW Charter Arms 2000 44 sp in stainless... started dry firing it and found a couple of unpleasant surprises...1) the cylinder doesn't seem to be able to complete a revolution without locking up...a little tap frees it up, but it jams again in short order. Also, the screw that seems to be part of the hammer pivot backs out after only a few cycles, requiring me to grab a screwdriver and tighten it back up... I shot one of these a few years back and liked it, which prompted me to buy one just now. Did I fall for an inferior pistol? I just sent an email over to Charter Arms, but hate to think I'm going to have to send the gun back BEFORE I put one round through it! I saw a couple of other posts with similar problems....Anyone have any resolutions?
 
That was my biggest problem with Charter Arms revolvers. Binding. It happened a few times at the range, so I got rid of them (a .38 and a .44). Got a Rossi .38 and it was much better.

Several times it was so bad that I had to use a rubber mallet to knock the cylinder free. The frames always seemed too flimsy. Anyway, individual results may vary is the in vogue term today.
 
Sadly, the folks putting these things together today don't seem to be at the top of their form. I currently have 3 Charter's. Two 3" Pathfinders (his 'n hers...Aren't they cute! They have matching guns!) And the wife's Off Duty, stoked with Glasers. All three are older guns, are really accurate and they work perfectly. I've also owned and carried several more, but they were all the older guns, before the barrel shroud, and never had a minutes trouble with any of them. And as has been said YMMV.:D
 
just to be fair...

Regarding my previous post about my new bulldog locking up...

Well, I decided that before I sent the 44 back to the factory, I'd try a couple of things. So even though it was new in box, I gave it a good cleaning and then sat in front of the TV and cycled the action/dry fired for a couple of hours. While I was doing this, I noticed the binding was happeining less and less frequently, although it seemed to be isolated to one chamber in particular.

Took it out to the range this morning and put a box of factory Remingtons through it...no jams encountered!

A little bit of lock-tite applied to the hammer pivot screw kept it from backing out. I think I'm back in business!
 
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