Cheap red dot not bright enough outdoors. Need recommendations.

[rpenmanparker]

No, you still don’t get it. The point is that ther is no point in us discussing UltraDots and micro tube style red dots id you’re limited to min reflex types. Which is the case here. Plarform is critical because I’m going to suggest something completely different for a heavy recoiling revolver than I am for a Ruger MKIV or a 1911. In some cases there is some overlap but jn your case there is none.

I thought I made it clear I was talking about mini reflex types.

 

[rpenmanparker]

I bought the Vortex Venom and received it yesterday. Tested it this morning against the Sightmark Mini Pro Spec and Burris Fastfire 3 with photo-gray eyeglasses on. The Venom and Fastfire were clearly superior to the Sightmark. At least twice as bright if not 4X. Hard to say just eyeballing it. The Venom and Fastfire were similar, but I would give a very small edge to the Venom. I'm happy.