Chiappa Rhino 30DS

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The only story that comes up directs back the The Firearms Blog. It shows a Rhino with the cylinder intact but the rest of the gun is in pieces. Doesn't look right to me and I have squibbed a round in my Rhino. Incidentally, with mine there was ZERO damage to gun or shooter. I am not worried in the slightest about my Rhino or any other gun I own. If one of my guns does come apart the outcome won't be very pretty either way.
 
The only story that comes up directs back the The Firearms Blog. It shows a Rhino with the cylinder intact but the rest of the gun is in pieces. Doesn't look right to me and I have squibbed a round in my Rhino. Incidentally, with mine there was ZERO damage to gun or shooter. I am not worried in the slightest about my Rhino or any other gun I own. If one of my guns does come apart the outcome won't be very pretty either way.

Fair enough. The point I'm making is the guns won't come apart like the a normal revolver. Did you catch the squib before you shot another round or shoot another round and have both bullets exit the barrel?
 
Fair enough. The point I'm making is the guns won't come apart like the a normal revolver. Did you catch the squib before you shot another round or shoot another round and have both bullets exit the barrel?
Nope. Fired another round right behind it and jammed them together about 2-4 inches down the barrel. The flames that came out of the cylinder gap were at least 12" long and plainly visible on a well-lit indoor range. Easily the worst mistake I've made while shooting. To this day I keep those bullets in the case for my Rhino as a reminder to pay attention.

I have fired my Rhino until the grips were smoking and it was too hot to touch. So it explodes differently (or does it?), so what? I haven't seen a kB yet - in ANY gun - that I thought "Man, I wish I had been shooting THAT". But more to the point, I simply don't believe the picture (from only one source no less). Even if it is a true story, if you can't tell the difference between a full power .357 and a squib (unless it's quite literally the first round you've ever fired), you have every bit of a destroyed gun and/or hand coming your way.

Because of my first squib I went on to test over 40 more squibs on purpose in the following years and have plans to do further experimentation down the road as well. The best information I received from all that has been if something sounds different, it's time to stop and check the barrel.

FWIW, I have an FN Five-SeveN and I would be far more worried about that gun coming apart, especially with American Eagle ammo. If I were really concerned about guns exploding, I sure as hell wouldn't shoot them.
 
I understand squib rounds having a few of them myself. The point is to check any gun when you only hear a faint pop. Luckily you had squib that didn't destroy the gun, but there's also the possibility of an over charged round that will cause a kaboom. If I had a kaboom in a Rhino, I would certainly wish I had it in a S&W or Ruger instead. At least the blast goes up and out the sides instead of downward into my hand. For every one Rhino sold I'm willing to bet thousands if not tens of thousand (more maybe?) of regular revolvers have been sold. That's why you're not going to hear of many kabooms in a Rhino, but just Google image "revolver kaboom" and you'll see a large amount of regular revolver pictures that had the blast go up and/or out the sides or tear off the barrel. Even the plastic and aluminum framed regular revolvers stay relatively intact most of the time. Barrel at the top, kaboom goes up and/or out the sides. Barrel at the bottom, kaboom goes down and/or out the sides. It's the nature of the design.

Also, most people that own firearms also don't run online and post about their problems or belong to gun forums, so add that to the tiny amount of Rhino owners out there and you won't see or hear much about these guns. I've owned hundreds of guns and I've had my fair share of problems that I never posted about on a gun forum even though I belong to quite a few.

All in all, enjoy the Rhino. I truly enjoyed my 50DS. I just chose to stick with the traditional design for reasons I deem important.
 
Barrel at the top, kaboom goes up and/or out the sides. Barrel at the bottom, kaboom goes down and/or out the sides. It's the nature of the design.
It is indeed the nature of the design, but... I'll also mention that the top strap of a revolver is the weakest part of the frame, while the lower frame is likely one of the strongest.

I don't think I've ever seen a picture of the revolver kaboom that didn't also blow off the topstrap...usually separating at the corner of the cylinder window just above the barrel where the metal is thinnest. The Rhino's design doesn't have this same failure point
 
It is indeed the nature of the design, but... I'll also mention that the top strap of a revolver is the weakest part of the frame, while the lower frame is likely one of the strongest.

I don't think I've ever seen a picture of the revolver kaboom that didn't also blow off the topstrap...usually separating at the corner of the cylinder window just above the barrel where the metal is thinnest. The Rhino's design doesn't have this same failure point

Just Google "revolver kaboom" and you'll see some with intact top straps. Some top straps are beefier than others. No matter what, it's about which direction the blast is going, not if the top strap or the revolver itself will survive. Having the top strap break off is preferable to the aluminum frame fragmenting.
 
Just Google "revolver kaboom" and you'll see some with intact top straps. Some top straps are beefier than others. No matter what, it's about which direction the blast is going, not if the top strap or the revolver itself will survive. Having the top strap break off is preferable to the aluminum frame fragmenting.
I'd change my statement to the vast majority of revolver kabooms involve the top strap being blown off.

But as mentioned previously the picture...the only picture...of a Rhino frame failure isn't a kaboom in the commonly understood meaning of the term (catastrophic failure of the case in the chamber) but a shooting firing another round into a barrel obstructed by a squib
 
I'd change my statement to the vast majority of revolver kabooms involve the top strap being blown off.

But as mentioned previously the picture...the only picture...of a Rhino frame failure isn't a kaboom in the commonly understood meaning of the term (catastrophic failure of the case in the chamber) but a shooting firing another round into a barrel obstructed by a squib

Yes I know about the picture. As I previously stated "For every one Rhino sold I'm willing to bet thousands if not tens of thousand (more maybe?) of regular revolvers have been sold." There's not going to be a lot of data for a gun not many people own.

I also stated that "Also, most people that own firearms also don't run online and post about their problems or belong to gun forums, so add that to the tiny amount of Rhino owners out there and you won't see or hear much about these guns. I've owned hundreds of guns and I've had my fair share of problems that I never posted about on a gun forum even though I belong to quite a few."

Let's also not forget about overcharged loads...the other real danger and cause of many kabooms that blow the cylinder apart and top strap of a conventional revolver. There have been a few Rhino catastrophic failures posted, but maybe only a single picture. It doesn't take away which way the blast goes in the Rhino. If overcharged ammo destroys a conventional revolver made from steel like this... a8ea7f11d66b2b1f1b41567f9927874e.jpg
Above a .357...below is an overcharged .38spl.
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...how do you think it'll fair when it goes out the bottom in an aluminum framed Rhino revolver? The Rhino frame below the cylinder is thinner than you think. It WILL go down into the frame and shooters hand. Maybe someone with money to blow can buy a Rhino, put an overcharged round in, shoot it from a Ransom Rest, record it and see how it fairs, then do the same thing to a conventional revolver. I'd bet on the outcome with total confidence. It's simple physics.

I feel like I'm repeating myself so I'll leave it here and let someone else have the last say. It is what it is.
 
In spite of Mr.Nakanokalronin's misgivings this may be softest shooting revolver I've used in the 56 years or so that I've been shooting revolvers. I'm particularly impressed with how it handles shooting weak hand. (I know, I said this once before)
Federal HST defense rounds are easy shooters out of the Rhino and very accurate out to the 10 yards I've been shooting them. They also work surprisingly well with moonclips. I bought a couple of holsters from Alien Gear which showed up this week. It carries pretty well IWB and really, really well OWB.
 
In spite of Mr.Nakanokalronin's misgivings this may be softest shooting revolver I've used in the 56 years or so that I've been shooting revolvers. I'm particularly impressed with how it handles shooting weak hand. (I know, I said this once before)
Federal HST defense rounds are easy shooters out of the Rhino and very accurate out to the 10 yards I've been shooting them. They also work surprisingly well with moonclips. I bought a couple of holsters from Alien Gear which showed up this week. It carries pretty well IWB and really, really well OWB.
I don't recall where I got it from, but I have a IWB/OWB leather holster for my 60DS. It's like the gun isn't even on my side - even with the long barrel.
 
I don't recall where I got it from, but I have a IWB/OWB leather holster for my 60DS. It's like the gun isn't even on my side - even with the long barrel.
One of the appealing things,for me, about the Rhino is it's relatively light weight and it's ergonomics. At 5'8" (and shrinking) it conceals pretty well on me. Much of that, I think, is the grip.
 
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Chiappa Rhino 60-DS 6 round 357 Magnum

This is quite light for its size. The frame is aluminum which is surprising. The cocking mechanism takes some getting used to since It doesn’t stay back. There is a cocked indicator, though.

In double action, which is how I shoot always, the trigger feels very smooth and light. It has one of the best factory triggers.

Recoil was minimal. No soreness, anywhere after shooting Hornady Critical Defense through it.

Grips are comfortable and wide, helping with disappearing force. I love the fiber optic sights, particularly since they’re adjustable.

I love the design. It’s a great revolver.
 
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