Chicago gun ownership questions

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My 21 year old daughter will be moving to Chicago for her first real job later this year. Joy (sarcasm). She is not yet a resident of Illinois. With the state of the world,, I told her she needs to have a handgun in a quick access safe in her new residence. I raised her around shooting and guns, so she is comfortable. It’s relatively easy to buy a handgun in our current state so she can buy one here before she moves.

Once she is in Illinois, things change. Apparently. she needs a Firearms Ownership Identification (FOID) card to possess any firearm in the state. It’s a pain, but I can live with it. However, I came across this site that said the following: “Chicago requires the registration of firearms. They must be registered with the Chicago Police and the Daley Center. The registration ticket must be carried with the firearm, and is valid for 1 year.” https://www.gunlaws101.com/state/overview/illinois I have not seen this information anywhere else except the site gunlaws101.com

Question1: Does anyone know if this information is accurate? Does the city of Chicago require a legally owned firearm that a person possesses to be registered with the City? I am dead set against registration, and I am trying to think through some alternatives.

Question2: Concealed Carry. I am not expecting her to carry, but a CCW makes life much easier when transporting. When she becomes a resident, can she realistically obtain CCW permit or will the city/state simply make it impossible to realistically obtain one?
 
Welcome to the forum. I was born and raised in the Chicago area but moved to Wisconsin 2 years ago. In regards to registering a gun with the City of Chicago, that's the first I heard of it however I lived in a suburb which did not require this. I did a quick internet search and came across a couple of articles from 2013 regarding the end of the registration requirement. She should obviously confirm this. As far as obtaining a FOID or carry permit, she will be able to obtain one however she should expect delays. It's still worth applying for the CC permit and assuming there's nothing in her background prohibiting her from obtaining one she should be granted one, but again it may take a while as the state is ignoring the 90/120 day requirement to process applications. There are quite a few prohibited areas, so if she obtains her permit she should pay attention to those.

Depending on her residency requirements, if any, she may want to consider moving to a surrounding county such as DuPage County as opposed to the City or Chicago itself or Cook County. DuPage County is not what I'd call 2A friendly, but it is better than Cook County.
 
Il resident here.

They're tying foid and ccw together now on the same card.

Absolutely get the ball rolling asap on both is my advice. It's a process and it isn't cheap.

It's pretty much shall issue though, jump through the hoops, have a clean record and she'll get her ccw..
 
First off, Welcome to THR.
Please feel free to visit the Introductions thread: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...wered-elsewhere.233018/page-494#post-12613277

It's my understanding that the IL FOID is required for everything. As in you are meant to show it just to see a gun in the case at the LGS. So, the process to get that needs to be first; second after securing an actual address in the metro area.

Secondly, Chicago, City of, and "chicagoland," metro area of, are two very distinct geographical areas. And the actual City is a small subset of the metro area. The metro area runs Evanston, Hammond, Naperville (and the locals will disagree on what they consider the limits). From further away, an argument can be made for Valpraiso to Aurora to Kenosha/Milwaukee. But, you are taking about 3-5 different Counties, and Cook is very different from Du Page or Lake County for the rules & regs.

My time in Glen Ellyn was '68-70, so, a long, long, long time ago, when there were still cornfields between there and The City (and the cityfolk dismissed you as being closer to Aurora than "civilization."
 
So sorry to be a doomy and gloomy stick in the mud, but BY DESIGN the ILL-inois FOID card will take many months to be processed and issued. The antis in charge are deliberately delaying permits while they are actively trying to disarm all citizens (except violent thugs) and forcing many gun dealers to close shop. A very good friend of mine who is now widowed and lives alone..AND IS EVEN EMPLOYED BY THE STATE..applied for a FOID card over 6 months ago, and has yet to receive any word on the status of her application...I went through the same nonsense when i lived there. I can't imagine how long your daughter would have to wait. Again...not to be discouraging, and i hope the best for your daughter.
 
You can look but not touch. (FOID in gun shop)
Chicago has among the most stringent gun restrictive laws in the country and one of the highest murder rates along with weak prosecution for violent crimes. Beg her to come down south to middle IL where we merely exist under a bloated billionaire bully but can still have some of our guns and even carry some places.
 
Yes, your daughter will need to acquire an Illinois FOID when she becomes an Illinois resident (must have an in state Driver's License or State ID first). The separate Chicago gun permits/registration system was shut down back in 2013 when state gun laws were overhauled. It is not legal to carry without a permit and there are multiple locations in the city were permitted persons are not allowed to carry anyway. As a non-resident with an out of state gun, she can legally move to Illinois with her firearms and have 60 days to establish residency with no issues. She will not be allowed to purchase any firearms without the FOID (there are some exceptions for long guns by people in border states). In theory a non resident can present valid ID to buy ammunition but many stores will have policies against it (organizations used to run sting operations to try to trick retailers into gray area sales to get the stores shut down so most reacted with blanket policies).

This is a great resource to start at: https://www.ispfsb.com/Public/Faq.aspx

Some general info/history: http://www.chicagogunsmatter.org/firearms-ownership/16-becoming-a-gun-owner-illinois-foid
 
My best Friend, an Illinois resident, told me of the costs, long delays, and in general stumbling blocks put there on purpose to discourage gun ownership let alone concealed carry. It is a trial. Good luck to you Daughter. My Friend also told me his permit is up for renewal which means taking a sixteen hour "Refresher" course. Illinois has their hand in your pocket constantly.
 
Thanks for the replies. Sounds like it is not a problem to have a gun in her safe in her new apartment when she initially moves there from out of state. Then she will become an IL resident within a short period of time and then apply for the FOID card. Question: If there are delays being issued the FOID card (ie months and months go by) is there a problem of simply keeping the gun in her apartment? Are any laws being broken?
 
user error said:
Thanks for the replies. Sounds like it is not a problem to have a gun in her safe in her new apartment when she initially moves there from out of state. Then she will become an IL resident within a short period of time and then apply for the FOID card. Question: If there are delays being issued the FOID card (ie months and months go by) is there a problem of simply keeping the gun in her apartment? Are any laws being broken?
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I would recommend contacting an attorney regarding this. I did a quick search and attached the link to a criminal defense firm who's web site states that you need a FOID to possess a gun in Illinois. It doesn't specify where you possess it. I don't know the answer, so again contact an attorney who practices criminal law in Chicago. Whatever you pay the attorney for their advice will be inexpensive compared to what your daughter will go through and what it'll cost her in legal fees if she's caught with a gun in violation of Illinois or Chicago law.

https://www.chicagocriminallawyer.com/happens-caught-firearm-illinois/
 
user error said:
Then she will become an IL resident within a short period of time and then apply for the FOID card. Question: If there are delays being issued the FOID card (ie months and months go by) is there a problem of simply keeping the gun in her apartment? Are any laws being broken?
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Here's what i required for the IL DL (note that IL has a "plain" DL, and a "REAL ID" DL--the kind TSA requires to fly with).
https://www.ilsos.gov/publications/pdf_publications/dsd_x173.pdf
This is the definition used to identify IL taxpayers:
https://ilga.gov/commission/jcar/admincode/086/086001000J30200R.html

Note IL requires out-of-state vehicles to be inspected and registered within 30 days of moving to IL.

Now, you do raise an interesting (and thorny) question in that, if a person is an IL resident by way of domicile, taxpayer status, and DL, do they them have to comply with the FOID rules? That might be well worth hiring the opinion of an IL gun rights attorney. Even spending a couple grand right now is far cheaper than potential felony convictions later.

I know I'm hard pressed to find any IL residents who are pleased with how the FOID process works, nor the alacrity of ISP in processing time.
 
mope540 said:
Good suggestion.

btw, OP, a non-resident of Illinois literally has no right to use a firearm for self-defense in Illinois.
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While it is true that the state does not recognize non Illinois permits for carrying on your person, the law absolutely does allow self defense from forcible felonies & has specific provisions to prevent a civil suite after a successful self defense criminal case. Situations always depend on context and most of the legal system is elected in Illinois so local politics will be at play, especially in the counties around Chicago, St Louis, and Springfield which means spending time in jail and court before exoneration is very possible.

https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/il...&ChapterID=53&SeqEnd=9700000&SeqStart=8200000
 
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