Chicago Sues Glock

Chicago has always been a dangerous place. I believe it was one of, If not the first city in the country to establish a professional police force. NYPD I think is the first ever but Chicago has to be shortly after. I'd love for someone with more knowledge to chime in but I also believe that at one time Thompson sub machine guns where called "the Chicago type writer" point being the place has always been dangerous so they can't just go blame a gun company. Ridiculous
 
Easier to sue a legitimate company than the criminal gangs that import drugs. What next-will they sue companies like Walmart that have closed their grocery stores and created "food deserts".
 
What became of the plan to put in government owned grocery dispensaries to replace the stores forced to close by thievery?

I understand the "switches" are made in China, like so many other popular products. So sue the Chinese organization responsible, they have real deep pockets. Not much chance of collecting, but you can't have everything.

Glock should apply the Barrett Rule. "We cannot afford to do business where we are being sued." Get your guns elsewhere, Chicago PD."
 
What has been said about Boston is also true for Chicago-they should have kept the tea and thrown the city in the harbor.
Chicago's problems are the result of decades of corruption, of government run for the benefit of the people who run it.
 
I discussed this very issue on the Shaun Thompson show in Chicago.

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Cook County election corruption - whodda thought?! PLUS, The Heritage Foundation's EJ Antoni warns Shaun of a coming housing collapse and Gun Owner of America's Luis Valdes fills Shuan in on a ridiculous new lawuit that Chicago brought to Glock Firearms for "facilitating" illegal gun conversion.
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Realistically, wouldn’t the government and most of the voters, regardless of political affiliation, desire and benefit from a city that was more free of crime and had a lower number of violent criminals?

I feel like this is something most human beings can agree on. I also feel like most humans can probably agree that blaming the tool is stupid. (I might be wrong there but at least a good chunk of the populace will agree with me… enough to concede the legitimacy of questioning along these lines.)

So who benefits, and how do they benefit, when criminals are released back into the wild without serious corrective measures after they’ve been apprehended for a crime? Maybe if we shed light on the sordid details of who actually benefits and which specific officials and individuals are failing at their jobs and/or being presented with dilemmas that result in them promoting the lenient treatment of bad actors, we can promote some real change.

(I’m not naive, I’m not going to hold my breath… but I also get the sense that I don’t know the answer to this question and neither do most people, and too many of us just shrug and say “corruption.” There’s got to be enough common interest to justify investigation, right?)
 
Chicago's contention is that Glock made a pistol that is easily converted to automatic fire. Can someone who is mechanically inclined tell me why they think Glock is the only pistol that can be converted like this? Is it only because the Glock switch was invented almost 40 years ago and highly publicized recently? Or is it not as easy to design a similar device for other striker fired pistols, like a S&W M&P?

I have two pistols apart, a Glock 43 and a S&W SD9VE, and a picture of a Glock switch on my phone. It looks like the Glock switch pushes the trigger bar down as the slide moves forward. It looks like to me like the S&W trigger bar gets pushed down to fire in the same way. But in the words of Forrest Gump, I am not a smart man.
 
Scooter22 said:
Got a simple fix. You get caught using a modified Glock in a crime you get death penalty. Won't happen but I'd bet it would help.
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I support an enhanced penalty of a mandatory 3 years for EACH shot fired in a criminal act, 10 years for a Glock switch, 15 years for being a felon in unlawful possession of a firearm. We don't want these kinds of folks out in public so keep 'em locked up.

These kinds of penalties focus on criminals and criminal acts, not law abiding citizens.

Also, federalize the crime of murdering a law enforcement officer employed by any state that accepts federal money for law enforcement, and make the crime punishable by death at the federal level. My state effectively abolished the death penalty. The maximum sentence is life without parole. Some offenders shouldn't be allowed to enjoy the simple pleasures of life, even if it's a Top Ramen from the prison commissary, after committing a serious crime.
 
I am against enhanced penalties and special circumstances.
I think the same penalty should apply to murder of a retired chemical engineer as for killing a cop on duty.
And it doesn't matter whether it was with a bat or a cannon.
Hanged is hanged, after all.

I don't do hate crime, either.

I would be in favor of a provision that made parole boards, psychiatrists, and clergy liable for damages caused by a felon released before completion of a prison sentence.

I would be in favor of a provision that penalized bearing false witness or concealing exculpatory evidence to gain a conviction the same as the original charge. Stool pigeons and shady lawyers in particular.

And along with that, I would require a verdict of "Guilty beyond a shadow of doubt" for execution, I hate the thought of executing somebody later cleared by new evidence or recanted lies, but nobody sitting on death row for decades, either.
 
Shawn Dodson said:
I support an enhanced penalty of a mandatory 3 years for EACH shot fired in a criminal act, 10 years for a Glock switch, 15 years for being a felon in unlawful possession of a firearm. We don't want these kinds of folks out in public so keep 'em locked up.

These kinds of penalties focus on criminals and criminal acts, not law abiding citizens.

Also, federalize the crime of murdering a law enforcement officer employed by any state that accepts federal money for law enforcement, and make the crime punishable by death at the federal level. My state effectively abolished the death penalty. The maximum sentence is life without parole. Some offenders shouldn't be allowed to enjoy the simple pleasures of life, even if it's a Top Ramen from the prison commissary, after committing a serious crime.
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How about we give ordinary citizens the same protections as officers? If I'm murdered it should be the same penalty as a cop is murdered unless you think cops deserve to live more than I do. And if you can newly manufactured automatics, we get newly manufactured automatics.

Also, it should be just as illegal to stab someone as shoot someone- or to shoot someone with a particular gun. Unless of course, you agree the gun was the real problem in the first place.
 
wayneinFL said:
Chicago's contention is that Glock made a pistol that is easily converted to automatic fire.
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"Easily" is subjective and would be impossible to draw the line. Imagine trying to codify this in a regulation? If this case is found for Chicago, then what semi-auto manufacturer couldn't be found liable even if there aren't any "switches" for their model. Any gun whose action is easy to strip could be sued. If I were Chicago and won, then I'd go after AR manufacturers next.

I don't think governments have the power to bring civil lawsuits. NYC used it against a GA gun store. No criminal charges mind you.
 
alfsauve said:
"Easily" is subjective and would be impossible to draw the line. Imagine trying to codify this in a regulation? If this case is found for Chicago, then what semi-auto manufacturer couldn't be found liable even if there aren't any "switches" for their model. Any gun whose action is easy to strip could be sued. If I were Chicago and won, then I'd go after AR manufacturers next.

I don't think governments have the power to bring civil lawsuits. NYC used it against a GA gun store. No criminal charges mind you.
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By easily, I mean a drop in part, or auto sear. It looks to me like you could make a similar part for other striker fired guns. So why single out Glock?

Unless there's something about Glock that makes it easier.
 
DustyGmt said:
Right, like "look at this, this fool just posted this video of himself shooting an illegally converted FA Glock, let go sit on his Aunties house for 2 hours and wait for him to show up with it tucked in his waistband".

It's a waste of time and unnecessary risk for the LEO since the prosecutor isn't going to touch him, more likely you just open yourself up to a lawsuit. It's why cops stopped doing their jobs in Baltimore, the guys would get cut free within an hour and their departments were constantly in court defending the arrest.
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As soon as the cops approach the jackass, he will try to pull the gun out of his pants, end up putting 15 rounds through his own nether regions, problem solved. 😀
 
Possession of an unregistered machine gun is a federal offense with a stiff penalty, I believe more severe if used during the course of drug trafficking. You would think gun czar Harris would get Federal prosecutors on these cases since they are so concerned about reducing gun violence.
 
wayneinFL said:
How about we give ordinary citizens the same protections as officers? If I'm murdered it should be the same penalty as a cop is murdered unless you think cops deserve to live more than I do. And if you can newly manufactured automatics, we get newly manufactured automatics.

Also, it should be just as illegal to stab someone as shoot someone- or to shoot someone with a particular gun. Unless of course, you agree the gun was the real problem in the first place.
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The Feds can only force states to do things when states agree to take Federal money. Murder falls under state jurisdiction unless it's a Federal employee on offical business. Allowing the Feds to prosecute cop killers and apply the death penalty circumvents woke states.

It's already illegal to commit murder of a private citizen, therefore we can't make it double secret illegal. But we can add enhanced penalties for a Glock switch and number of rounds fired during a criminal act, none of which affect the law abiding.

Or we can do nothing and they'll pass laws that only affect the law abiding and further erode our rights.
 
TomJ said:
Chicago has a history of blaming others for their failed policies which have led to it being a crime ridden city. The most common thing I heard when living there was the failure of neighboring states to have more stringent gun laws leads to an influx of guns into Chicago from those states. It is of course a bunch of hog wash. Given that I'm not sure why I was surprised to see that they're now suing Glock for their violent crime problems. Apparently someone at Glock made the decision for Chicago to not prosecute violent criminals, refuse to offer a school voucher or choice program so lower income kids have to attend gang infested schools where they learn little and have no future, etc. It's a frivolous lawsuit and should be dismissed, but the fact that this was filed in Cook County makes me wonder how far it'll go.


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If the anti-gunners that brought this suit had 1/2 a brain, they'd be...........1/2 wits!
 
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