Cleveland police want bigger guns

[10-Ring]

The .40-caliber bullets are heavier and slightly wider, so they would inflict more damage and be more likely to make a suspect fall

Isn't that the point? If the 9mm round isn't doing the job, it's time to find a round that does.

 

[blades67]

The 9mm is doing the job, the CPD just keep shooting the wrong people.

 

[Erik]

They want 40s? Give 'em 40s.

 

[Matt G]

City Safety Director James Draper said the 9 mm weapons are so dependable that two-thirds of the police departments in the country use them, he said.

"It was not a political issue. It was a safety issue," Draper said. "My concern is our police officers don't get hurt and die and neither do our citizens."

Great. The guns they have are the safest? Good. ( )
It's not political? Good.
It's not about money? Good.

So keep the guns you've got, and spend the replacement amount on extra long-term training for every gun-wearing, badge-toting officer in the P.D. (Training's expensive-- requires paying good instructors, reserving a venue, paying officers while at training and paying other officers to cover their shifts, paying for ammo, targets, and other expenses, and even the inevitable wear and tear on the guns and other equipment.)

No? Not feasible? Then I would submit that the City Safety Director has his mind on other issues.

 

[TonyB]

1)Learn to shoot
2)Shoot the right people
3)Public opinion is BS..................

 

[TheeBadOne]

Also the point is about stopping people, not killing them. A .22 LR is lethal, but doesn't stop like a .40

 

[dandean316]

This instructor left out a small part. A minor caliber hitting the skull has the possibility bouncing off. Major calibers shatter the skull and bore thru when they strike.

He didn't mention that, but the guy was shooting a 9mm.

I've always wondered about that. I mean, even if it does bounce off, wouldn't it knock you silly? Stun you for a few moments at the very least? (moments that could be used for another shot or for retreat as appropriate)

Sure, but the thinking is if the guy is hopped up on drugs, they will still advance on you. Point is to (generally) always take the body shot, and only head shot if necessary.