Clinging to God and Guns, illustrated

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Awesome as always.

Friendly observation on the Jewish one, can you add a magenta or yellow dot in their ears to portray ear protection? Even though the youth is shooting a .22lr...but still...safety first!

Thanks for sharing, God bless.
 
#4 looks like it would make a great Hammas recruiting poster.

I don't think your going to get much constructive mileage off of this idea...

it can be very easilly manipulated by the anti-crowd to serve their agenda.
 
WiccaChick is cute. Give her a pair of glasses, and I'd be smitten.
 
The First 3 are very good,

The 4th one I don't think will fly really well

The 5th Really wont fly well.
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Prejudice. Sheer prejudice.

And the whole point, I think, is to try and break down prejudices.
 
While I'm a Christian, and a pretty fundamentalist one at that, I understand, I think, why Oleg's including exemplars for religions that I would be uncomfortable supporting. (But, I'm also an American, who understands truly the "freedom of religion" part of the 1st Amendment, so I don't go around imposing my religious convictions on others.)

What struck me most was the absence of men. While I like how a lot of Oleg's posters show the importance of firearms for women, here I think there should be examples of men clinging to God and guns, as well. I'm feeling left out. :)
 
Minorities

Oleg is intentionally breaking the mold.

Bitter clingers = white male Protestant rednecks.

Therefore, show anything BUT white males.

Show those people who are typically targets of violence by virtue of gender, race, ethnicity, affiliations, and so on.

It makes it harder on a bigot when he has to make exceptions. "Well, I didn't mean women. Well, I didn't mean Moslems. Well, I didn't mean gays."

"So, then, just white Christian working-class males?"

One way or another, you have to break their "bigotry loop" and pictures that don't fit the default stereotype operate along that vector.

 
It looks like a tasty slice of American pie to me. I'm not afraid of their guns any more than I am afraid of their religion.
 
Where do you find these people?

Do you just stick your head out of the window and yell, "Hey! I need a Jew and a Buddhist! Preferably armed!"

Of do you sit behind a desk and call to your secretary by intercom?

"Mr. Volk, there's a witch with a rifle here to see you."

"Thanks. Send her in, Janice."

Remind me to never take on Oleg in a scavenger hunt.
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That was hilarious! Thanks, Maelstrom! :D


Oleg is intentionally breaking the mold.

Bitter clingers = white male Protestant rednecks.

Therefore, show anything BUT white males.

Show those people who are typically targets of violence by virtue of gender, race, ethnicity, affiliations, and so on.

It makes it harder on a bigot when he has to make exceptions. "Well, I didn't mean women. Well, I didn't mean Moslems. Well, I didn't mean gays."

"So, then, just white Christian working-class males?"

One way or another, you have to break their "bigotry loop" and pictures that don't fit the default stereotype operate along that vector.
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Very well said! And very true.

I find nothing wrong with any of those pictures. I can see where the anti's would get their undies all bunched up over them though.

I cling to my guns and Bibles - cause that's what the government is trying to take away!
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That would make a good sig line for somebody. :D
 
Everyone who's skeptical of the Muslim and Pagan pictures are missing a very important point.

These posters that Oleg created are not intended to be preaching to the choir (the choir being, us - gun people.) They are intended to demonstrate to antis that gun owners come in every variety of religion.

Antis are typically liberals. Liberals are typically falling all over themselves at every opportunity to advocate "tolerance" towards non-mainstream religions. Muslims, pagans, what have you. It's the liberals who would jump down your throat if you were ever to suggest that Islam is a dangerous religion, or that paganism or Satanism is a bad thing. It's the liberals, who make up the ranks of most of the antis, who have "tolerance" and "diversity" as their pet issues, and who are obsessed with fighting racial and religious bigotry.

So why on earth is anyone worried that the posters' intended audience is going to be upset at the sight of a (clearly non-terrorist) Muslim woman with an HK91 (with a slimline handguard that should be swapped out for a wide one, if it were mine, but anyway,) or a "pagan" woman with that same rifle (do they share it or something?)

If you suggested to the average left-winger that "all Muslims are terrorists" he or she would probably tear your face off in righteous anger. There's no reason to think that these people are going to be put off by those posters.
 
I like all of them. The gun culture needs to show its diversity. I would like to see a poster or billboard displaying all of those images, and perhaps other similar ones.
 
Religious Freedom is to protect the atheist´s right to
not believe and to protect them from real-world hassles
caused by people who choose to be religious.)
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Look up "Religious persecution".
Freedom of religion most certainly protects the right to have a religion.


AMERICA:

Clinging to our
GUNS and
RELIGION
since 1776
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That could be my new signature.

the posters' intended audience
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I'm guessing the poster is aimed at average Americans, not San Fransisco style leftists. I'm not saying that just because someone is muslim they're a terrorist, but I'm worried someone who buys into stereotypes could misinterpret this.
 
I understand wanting to break down barriers & perceptions in using non-steryotype models & backgrounds.

That said, why not make a photo of the status quo? As a clergyman, I would identify with a man in a role as you portray.

A clergyMAN in a dark suit & clerical collar, Bible in weak-side hand with right hand gently pulling back the suit to show a CCW? Or, for that matter, a clergyMAN in clerical shirt on the firing line (I do that semi-frequently). Or, one more, a clergyMAN with weapon drawn and a child behind him with the shadow/silhouette of a BG approaching - sort of a modern rendition of Psalm 23/Luke 15?

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Quoheleth,

Next time I come to Texas, I would happily make a poster featuring you. I'll see what I can do locally, too.
 
it can be very easilly manipulated by the anti-crowd to serve their agenda.
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To be fair the antis are GENERALLY self-described "liberals" who of course wouldn't make such comments because they are racist and politically incorrect (catch them in their own traps on that one). And even though it doesn't need to be said again, the Muslim girl is quite the looker (Sadly though I found my eyes being drawn to the gun first.... yes, I have a problem).
 
I linked the Pagan pic to a Witchcraft and Paganism forum I know to get feedback from the actual Pagan community. The reponse there was less than positive. The folks there (many of whom indicated that they are very pro-2A) felt that it would be detrimental to both groups - Linking Pagans (who have been trying very hard to be seen as NOT scary) with 'scary' guns, and guns with 'scary' Pagans.

I really like the idea of the diverse group with the diverse symbols (and diverse firearms) all in one image. I think that it might convey the intended messge more clearly.
 
Quoheleth,

Next time I come to Texas, I would happily make a poster featuring you. I'll see what I can do locally, too.
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Obviously, you haven't seen me, either live or Memorex. I'm only offering ideas, not offering to model. Your camara is not ensured highly enough to handle shots of me!!!

Seriously, I'm flattered, but that's not what I was hunting for...only trying to help pass on an idea I see in my head but have no means (or talent) to produce.

If it would help, I would be glad to send you a "loaner" clerical shirt to make some pics - grey, black or tan?

Q
 
A clergyMAN in a dark suit & clerical collar, Bible in weak-side hand with right hand gently pulling back the suit to show a CCW? Or, for that matter, a clergyMAN in clerical shirt on the firing line (I do that semi-frequently). Or, one more, a clergyMAN with weapon drawn and a child behind him with the shadow/silhouette of a BG approaching - sort of a modern rendition of Psalm 23/Luke 15?
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I think you spilled a little sexism there, might want to get that checked out.
 
Rules of grammar dictate that when speaking of an unidentified individual whose sex is unknown the male pronoun is used.

I know... the rules are sexist, too.
 
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