CNN video re rising gun ownership among Asian Americans

[old lady new shooter]

Most of it is actually quite positive. For "balance" they have a guy from the "Gun Violence Institute" basically saying this is a plot by the gun industry to replace the older white males who have been their main customers and are now aging out. (Yes, I know, this is ridiculous.)

Anyway, enjoy:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2023/...rising-gun-ownership-cnntmw-lah-contd-vpx.cnn

 

[21H40]

Thanks for sharing. I would've missed it.
I would have preferred CNN focus on the diversity and inclusion angle instead of comparing gun companies to the tobacco giants.

Obviously, owning guns MUST be just like consuming something designed to create addiction and contributes to illness and poverty in users.

 

[Mark_Mark]

not going to read CNN. But race has nothing to do with gun ownership. At all! I have shot with every race, creed, color, gender, & age… Everyone will agree on one thing - Shooting guns is fun!

It’s a God Given right

 

[Doug444]

I'm a volunteer RSO at a public range. While the preponderance of shooters remains "old white men" (of which I'm officially one now - old, that is), my experience is that it's becoming more diverse continually. Josh Sugarmann can claim all he wants, but the vast preponderance of folks, especially new shooters (adults - youth are still mostly just preparing to enter the hunting fraternity here), are doing so as a means of self-defence. I have friends and relatives who are/were LEO, and they all admit that they rarely stop, or knowingly prevent, crime. That's just reality, and the increased diversity at our range is evidence of reality setting in.

 

[Ignition Override]

The current (and future—) high price of .308 ammo for a semi-auto requires commitment and “addiction”.

Did CNN cover today’s ammo prices?

 

[old lady new shooter]

The current (and future—) high price of .308 ammo for a semi-auto requires commitment and “addiction”.

Did CNN cover today’s ammo prices?

No.

 

[AlexanderA]

Gun ownership has been rising among practically all identifiable groups. Why single out Asian-Americans? Is it because they are generally perceived as passive, law-abiding, and antigun? And that therefore, their interest in guns is newsworthy? This just feeds into racial stereotypes.

 

[Craig_AR]

But race has nothing to do with gun ownership.

I beg to differ. The earliest gun control laws were specifically to keep the freed slave blacks from having firearms. That seems pretty darn racist to me.

 

[buck460XVR]

Asian Americans have long been the lowest gun-owning demographic in the US, however, a recent string of mass shootings is changing that.

...that may be true for some Asian Americans, but not for the Hmong community. About half the total population of Hmong people in America, live here in Wisconsin and nearby areas of Minnesota. They came here with a history of foraging and hunting is a way to forage. One only needs to go to any public hunting area in the fall and you will find a high percentage of the hunters there are Hmong. There will be mom, dad, grandma and grandpas, along with all the kids....and everyone will have some kind of gun. One only has to read the local papers about drive by shootings, gang assassinations and other homicides by firearms, to see a high percentage of Hmong names listed on both sides. I can certainly understand where a Hmong in these areas would want a gun, and I doubt if there are many without. Ain't dissing the Hmong community, only stating the truth. That said, I understand where the cultures of other Asian Americans does not include the use of modern firearms, and why recent events would make them now want to arm themselves. All comes with the "American Dream". Those same "recent string of mass shootings" has prompted first time gun ownership in most every other ethnicity.

 

[N555]

I doubt it's mass shootings as Asians usually don't appear to be the target. But isn't it weird how now all of a sudden there's a few Asian mass shootings within a few weeks?
I bet it has more to do with all the Asians getting clobbered by hardened criminal free to walk the streets in "police reform" cities.
Yep and they said it 3 minutes in.

 

[entropy]

Every immigrant group has it's criminal element that develops after settling in, the Hmong are no exception. And as buck 460xvr says, they have a heritage of hunting, and after an initial period of hunting like they were back home, without regard to limits or private property, have settled in as avid law abiding hunters.
Asian immigrants here often enjoys rights they did not have in their homelands, and buy guns for the same reasons as the rest of us. As I type this I am sitting near a Pacific Islander family whose son is on the School Trap team here at the club. Dad shoots with him, as does an uncle. Mom cheers him on from behind the scorer.
This is what America is. This is the reason for the Bill of Rights, and what makes America still the greatest nation on Earth, and mankind's last best hope for freedom.

 

[Mark_Mark]

I beg to differ. The earliest gun control laws were specifically to keep the freed slave blacks from having firearms. That seems pretty darn racist to me.

I was talking about now!

I’m from the South, and they still have Sheriffs permit for pistols purchase, hold over from Jim Crow days

 

[Walkalong]

replace the older white males who have been their main customers and are now aging out. (Yes, I know, this is ridiculous.)

Not entirely.

 

[21H40]

I was talking about now!

I’m from the South, and they still have Sheriffs permit for pistols purchase, hold over from Jim Crow days

When I lived in NC, I was told by a retired LEO that those permits were to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous rabble - Blacks, Jews, and Catholics.

Times sure have changed... ... well? ... ok, maybe not that much.

 

[DukeConnor]

According to the news, in the big cities. there has been a big uptick in crimes against Asians. Good for them for choosing to fight back instead of being victims.

 

[Mark_Mark]

According to the news, in the big cities. there has been a big uptick in crimes against Asians. Good for them for choosing to fight back instead of being victims.

very True! here in Seattle it’s a real thing. Asians are buying Guns and getting training

 

[BLACKHAWKNJ]

IMHO a lot of these newer immigrant groups are quick to embrace their American heritage.

 

[Old Dog]

I don't think the CNN folks have been paying attention.

As I noted in another forum regarding this newsflash:

I dunno about all the conclusions in the story. I served with, lived with, once married into a family of, and have numerous friends and acquaintances who are all Filipinos, and I can tell you that there's a huge faction within that particular Asian community of proud firearms ownership.

Likewise a lot of the folks I've known in the Korean community.

They're not just now "arming up." They've been gun-owners for many years.

I migrated up to the PNW in the early '90s from SoCal, quickly noting the significant numbers of Asian-Americans frequenting gunshops, ranges and training course all around the Puget Sound region (which has a substantial Asian and Pacific Islander population).

 

[wally]

not going to read CNN. But race has nothing to do with gun ownership. At all! I have shot with every race, creed, color, gender, & age… Everyone will agree on one thing - Shooting guns is fun!

It’s a God Given right

I believe gun control started to prevent the newly freed slaves from owning guns after the civil war, and really picked up in large cities when "Boss Tweed" in NYC used them to disarm his opponents.

 

[old lady new shooter]

I doubt it's mass shootings as Asians usually don't appear to be the target. But isn't it weird how now all of a sudden there's a few Asian mass shootings within a few weeks?
I bet it has more to do with all the Asians getting clobbered by hardened criminal free to walk the streets in "police reform" cities.
Yep and they said it 3 minutes in.

Asians have also increasingly been targeted for street crimes, particularly beatings with no warning and for no reason.

 

[Beck]

I don't believe CNN when they say good morning, but gun ownership has been going up for some time among all people groups. That's a good thing. I don't have to say it here because we all know that the vast majority of gun owners are decent law abiding citizens who don't want to hurt anyone. News agencies would go out of business without bad news, so they spin things to trigger and alarm their viewership/ readership. Good news does not sell.

 

[Alte Schule]

Firearms in the Asian communities are nothing new. Many of us remember that during the (LA/Rodney King) riots in '92 these guys stepped up to protect their businesses and homes.

 

[theotherwaldo]

Lessee.
You threaten, demean, refuse advanced education for, encourage assaults upon and refuse to protect a group and then are surprised that they start arming themselves... .

 

[dogtown tom]

I'll guestimate 25% of my customers are Asian.

Primarily Chinese/Taiwanese, Vietnamese and Indian. Very few Japanese.

 

[.38 Special]

My wife was born in Taiwan, and while very westernized, she still is somewhat anti-gun. Her parents and brothers have the usual Taiwanese attitude that handguns are only for police, and that anyone else who owns one is a criminal. (Hunting rifles seem morally acceptable, as far as I can tell.)

Many second-generation Taiwanese seem to embrace 2A rights and gun ownership in general though - and has been pointed out, the black-on-asian crime spree has got the attention of the Taiwanese community in a big way.