El Tejon
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You should always be friendly to badgers. 
They prefer cooked eel, apricot beer and "occassional" Fig Newton.
They prefer cooked eel, apricot beer and "occassional" Fig Newton.
(CO) Hunter says he killed cougar in self-defense
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I've lurked around here a bit, but I had to register for this topic...
I faced a mountain lion last year while archery hunting. The first night I saw it at the water hole I was watching, but I didn't take a shot because it didn't see me and I didn't have a tag for one. The second night I was concentrating on watching my sides and back more and the cat snuck up on me from the FRONT!! I was turning my head back around from checking over my left shoulder and there it was, 5 yards away. I've never practiced quick drawing my 1911, but I had it out, finger on the trigger and safety off super quick. Luckily the cat ran off and I didn't have to take a shot. I'm still kind of proud of myself that I didn't freeze in that situation. It does surprise me how bold that cat was. I'm 6'2", ~250lbs and fairly athletic, I was standing, and I was wearing a heavy coat so I looked BIG and that cat still got that close. They're bold.
Now I just get a tag, carry the .45 and if I ever see one at 20 yards or so again before it sees me it's getting a broadhead flung at it.
I faced a mountain lion last year while archery hunting. The first night I saw it at the water hole I was watching, but I didn't take a shot because it didn't see me and I didn't have a tag for one. The second night I was concentrating on watching my sides and back more and the cat snuck up on me from the FRONT!! I was turning my head back around from checking over my left shoulder and there it was, 5 yards away. I've never practiced quick drawing my 1911, but I had it out, finger on the trigger and safety off super quick. Luckily the cat ran off and I didn't have to take a shot. I'm still kind of proud of myself that I didn't freeze in that situation. It does surprise me how bold that cat was. I'm 6'2", ~250lbs and fairly athletic, I was standing, and I was wearing a heavy coat so I looked BIG and that cat still got that close. They're bold.
Now I just get a tag, carry the .45 and if I ever see one at 20 yards or so again before it sees me it's getting a broadhead flung at it.
El Tejon
Over time, I was able to get into Chase's exhibit and scratch his back. When he was feeling playful, he would grab the cuff of my jeans, much as a dog does, and yank me around a bit. I still go to the zoo most every Friday and give him a big dog bone. He doesn't forget...
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Over time, I was able to get into Chase's exhibit and scratch his back. When he was feeling playful, he would grab the cuff of my jeans, much as a dog does, and yank me around a bit. I still go to the zoo most every Friday and give him a big dog bone. He doesn't forget...
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Sir Aardvark
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Hey Trebor,
I thought the exact same thing when I first read this post.
Southpark is pretty funny
I thought the exact same thing when I first read this post.
Southpark is pretty funny
Hawken50
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if he only had one shot, it's a safe bet he knew how to use it. people who hunt with muzzleloaders generally aren't the people who buy a gun, put 3 rounds through it off a bench to check the zero, then head out to the woods with 40 cartridges to kill something.
Also, he had the time to throw stuff at it. I gather that it was advancing slowly but steadily. Who's going to wait until it's at contact distance?!?
He didn't do anything wrong. If it were sick, it's worth notifying the game warden so that a biologist can look at it. There might be an ongoing problem that can be addressed. Besides that, in such cases the hides are sometimes recovered, usually for display. Would be a shame to waste it.
Double Naught Spy
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Okay, no more Tom Mix and Davy Crockett stories for you. No more watching "The Rifleman," "Fury," and old John Wayne movies for you. These stories, tv shows, and movies often portrayed big cats as evil killers that regular attacked humans, and had to be done away with at all costs. Usually there is some posse involved in hunting down the animal and somewhere along the way, there will be a hand-to-paw fight with the cat.
While still somewhat romantic and written more like a travel journal than a diary, I suggest you look into some of the hunting books written by the likes of Teddy Roosevelt or early settlers. The hunting descriptions are a bit more realistic.
Mongo the Mutterer
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dakotasin:
Hmm lemmee see people from cali in south dakota...
Have you all heard of a "blanket party"?
Hmm lemmee see people from cali in south dakota...
Have you all heard of a "blanket party"?
oct_97
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svtruth
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An advancing puma and a muzzle loader...
Bet he's glad for every round he fired at the range.
Me Too!!!
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An advancing puma and a muzzle loader...
Bet he's glad for every round he fired at the range.
Me Too!!!
PeteRR
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Q: What's the difference between a 110 pound woman jogging and a 110 pound deer?
A: The deer might actually be able to outrun the Mountain Lion.
A: The deer might actually be able to outrun the Mountain Lion.
"Never take your eyes off of the cat"
I agree with this one. I read a story once that in India people in the wilderness took to wearing masking with prominent eyes on the backs of their heads, to keep tigers from stalking them. I know when my housecat stalks me, she only moves when she doesn't see me watching her.
I also agree with the idea that in more populated areas the contact would probably be more common. The population was less dense where I grew up, and deer (different species, I know) were hard to find. In places like New York, deer would walk up and eat out of your hand. I guess with lions they eat your hand.
jmm
I agree with this one. I read a story once that in India people in the wilderness took to wearing masking with prominent eyes on the backs of their heads, to keep tigers from stalking them. I know when my housecat stalks me, she only moves when she doesn't see me watching her.
I also agree with the idea that in more populated areas the contact would probably be more common. The population was less dense where I grew up, and deer (different species, I know) were hard to find. In places like New York, deer would walk up and eat out of your hand. I guess with lions they eat your hand.
jmm
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Boss Spearman
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I rarely watch anything on tv, other than baseball and scifi now and then.
Scifi tends to not ever have mountain lions in it. At least the stuff I've seen.
Scifi tends to not ever have mountain lions in it. At least the stuff I've seen.
AZLibertarian
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I don't remember where I originally saw this related story, but did find another, more complete version over at Snopes.
loose cannon
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a ml kill on a mtlion doesnt surprise me. a 50 or 54 cal ml loaded right(maxi balls or lee real bullets not 240gr sabots) is almost as powerful as a 12ga slug.lions have been hunted with 22mag hguns tho being treed they may be more docile.most experienced people consider 357mags to be ideal and those are alot less potent than a ml rifle.
gotta agree bout the range practice tho.
gotta agree bout the range practice tho.
I believe this hunter's story completely.
About ten years ago, I bagged a bobcat with a single 20Ga. slug at ~50 yards (one shot was fatal, but I followed up with the other two just for good measure). We had been losing goats for quite some time, so I went up in the pasture to look for remains to try to find out what was doing it (the question was whether it was 2 or 4 legged predators doing the killin'). I encountered a VERY unhappy looking bobcat, which is exceptionally strange because they generally avoid humans that close to our fires, trucks, tractors, and other assorted things that make smoke and noise (less than 300 yards from the pole barn). He made what, in my opinion, was an aggressive move, so I shot the little bugger and called out the game warden.
The warden said that the cat behaved aggressively, and that I killed him within less than 200 yards of the goats' feeding area after we had lost several, so I acted in defense of my person and my livestock. No problem, please sign at the X, and he sacked the animal up and sent him off to the lab. The animal turned out to be rabid, and was not the first wild predator we had killed in that pasture that tested positive for rabies. This sort of information is invaluable to wildlife management and agricultural types, as a rabies outbreak threatens all sorts of hunting and agricultural activities. I have never killed an animal I didn't have to, and I have always called the game warden when circumstances warrant.
It was feral dogs, not wild ones that had been eating my goats. Grandad took care of five or six of them in about three seconds with a Garand. Freakishly good shot, he is.
AZLib, as for the bit you found with the mule... I'm inclined to believe it. We bought a donkey shortly after we dealt with the dog problem for just that reason. She wouldn't bother my beagle, who was friendly enough to mingle with the goats anyway, but we had several other, much larger, dogs who she would angrily chase out of the pasture. I don't know much about donkey psychology, but she sure looked angry enough to kill those dogs.
About ten years ago, I bagged a bobcat with a single 20Ga. slug at ~50 yards (one shot was fatal, but I followed up with the other two just for good measure). We had been losing goats for quite some time, so I went up in the pasture to look for remains to try to find out what was doing it (the question was whether it was 2 or 4 legged predators doing the killin'). I encountered a VERY unhappy looking bobcat, which is exceptionally strange because they generally avoid humans that close to our fires, trucks, tractors, and other assorted things that make smoke and noise (less than 300 yards from the pole barn). He made what, in my opinion, was an aggressive move, so I shot the little bugger and called out the game warden.
The warden said that the cat behaved aggressively, and that I killed him within less than 200 yards of the goats' feeding area after we had lost several, so I acted in defense of my person and my livestock. No problem, please sign at the X, and he sacked the animal up and sent him off to the lab. The animal turned out to be rabid, and was not the first wild predator we had killed in that pasture that tested positive for rabies. This sort of information is invaluable to wildlife management and agricultural types, as a rabies outbreak threatens all sorts of hunting and agricultural activities. I have never killed an animal I didn't have to, and I have always called the game warden when circumstances warrant.
It was feral dogs, not wild ones that had been eating my goats. Grandad took care of five or six of them in about three seconds with a Garand. Freakishly good shot, he is.
AZLib, as for the bit you found with the mule... I'm inclined to believe it. We bought a donkey shortly after we dealt with the dog problem for just that reason. She wouldn't bother my beagle, who was friendly enough to mingle with the goats anyway, but we had several other, much larger, dogs who she would angrily chase out of the pasture. I don't know much about donkey psychology, but she sure looked angry enough to kill those dogs.
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