Coach Guns

[Gary A]

I have a hammerless coach gun but have always wanted a hammered gun. I had put it in the back of my mind but for some reason I decide to check a few days ago and found a local distributor that has some TTN guns. Checked with my LGS and they ran a search, also checking their Cimarron distributors. Cimarron came up empty. I had heard that TTN no longer imported them but that is either incorrect or this distributor had some in storage or came across some or something. Anyway, I put my order in for one which should come in next week after the holiday. I hope, truly hope, it is as nice as ones I have seen and lusted after in the past. I will be happy to tell people who has them but, (sheepishly) I want to make certain mine is actually in the pipeline and locked in before setting off a run on them. LOL.

 

[MCgunner]

And leaving a loaded hammerless double setting around loaded is an accident waiting to happen.

Shotgun safetys are not drop-safe.
Or knock-over safe, or any other safe, unless you are holding them in your hands and have control of the muzzle direction.

I've hunted for years with a double gun in the field and never owned a hammer gun. They are as safe as any gun with a round in the chamber, 870, 500, BPS included. I always carry the gun "cocked and locked". No time to pump a round in when a bird is coming. You'll spook him anyway. And, you only a 2 round capacity in the mag if you're legal, so best to have that third round ready in the chamber. I know NO ONE in my 45 years plus of bird hunting that carries a shotgun with nothing in the chamber while in the field. And I never hear of failures of the safety.

One thing I've not tried yet that I've been told, don't have snap caps, yet, but you can supposedly load snap caps into a Baikal, snap both barrels, pull the fore end off, reload with live ammo and close the breech, install the fore end, and the hammers are down. The gun will then have to be opened and closed to cock the hammers.

I don't know if this works, haven't tried it, just was told about it, but i'm not particularly paranoid of my loaded Spartan since it's laying on the floor just under my bed. I pull it out now and then to clean off the dust bunnies. It gets used during dove season.

 

[KodiakBeer]

There's a nice looking one for sale right here on THR.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=532253

 

[messerist]

I agree with Gary A. I purchased a T.N.N coach gun several years ago and I think it is one solid shotgun. A tad heavier than most but I use to lug an M-60 so I hardly notice. It does not have ejectors only extractors but they get the shells out far enough so they are easy to grab. If you can find them I would recommend buying one. Good luck with your's Gary A and I hope that she comes with as gorgeous wood as mine did. That was a definite plus.

 

[KevininPa]

I like the Spartan

The changeable chokes make it pretty versatile. I used to keep mine in the closet 'til the stepson gave me a Maverick 88. That's in the closet now. I won't cry if that disappears when I'm not home. The hammer model Spartan may not be super expensive, but it's not as cheap as the hammerless model. At least that was the case when I purchased mine about four years ago.

 

[Gary A]

Thanks, messerist. I'm going to pick it up this afternoon (or tomorrow if time doesn't permit today). It's not that the waiting period is that long, it's just that it didn't come in from the distributor until today. I'm excited to get it and hope and expect to like mine as much as so many have reported they like theirs.

 

[Ratdog68]

Here's mine... you'd have to understand the WA State Gov. politics to get the joke... I call it "The Governator". It's a Rossi Overland. 12ga in 3". It'd been a safe queen before I bought it... I doubt it's ever even been shot.

 

[Gary A]

That is sweet. Cimarron shows a 26" SxS with working hammers on their website but my LGS could not find one currently. If I find one available one of these days, you can bet I will add it to the stable. I just have a strong desire to do some upland hunting with a hammered shotgun. Could be that no one will want to hunt anywhere near me, though, but that might be just on general principles.

 

[Gary A]

I like that Remington/Spartan model with working hammers. Never got around to trying to get one, though I was tempted. I think it's a bit lighter than the TTN but is not as faithful a reproduction. Nice gun.

 

[Gary A]

Well, I picked up my hammered coach gun today. I thought I was buying a TTN but when it came from the distributor it is an EMF Hartford model. (I know they all come from the same factory but this is marked EMF.) It seems just dandy and has some very nice looking wood on it. Everything seems to work like it should and the gun looks good. It is heavier than my hammerless Spartan/Baikal, and seems more muzzle heavy but not enough to be annoying. I'm pleased to find, as I expected, no tang safety and no cross-bolt safety (as was on the Norinco models). Not much of a manual with it. I believe the Spartan hammer gun can be broken open when cocked to assist in safely lowering the hammers on live rounds. This does not appear to allow for that but it seems quite easy to lower the hammers in the same way one would on a revolver. Not sure of the LOP but it seems short so adding a slip-on pad for those times I want to shoot more than a few rounds without breaking my shoulder shouldn't be a problem. I think that steel butt-plate and 3 inch shells would not be a great combination.
It's bee-yoo-ti-ful and me likes! Can't wait to shoot it but gotta get ready for a night-time bicycle ride so shooting will have to wait.