cool cops

Status
Not open for further replies.
I would be pretty perturbed at being touched by a police officer presumably for no reason other than my pistol was showing in a state where it is legal to OC if you possess a permission slip to CC.
Click to expand...

Need to keep your macho ego in check, lest it get you in trouble.
 
Really? I would say that is his prerogative. Maybe he doesn't like to be touch by strangers. I can't say I blame him, especially while carrying. I wouldn't be surprised if an officer was uneasy about being touched from behind by a stranger either. Is there a difference in your mind?
 
Put your hand uninvited on a LEOs shoulder and he can, if he wishes, arrest and charge you with assault.
And in the doing so, they are very likely to assault & batter you in the process.
Especially since you're probably going to be extremely surprised & indignant and in their eyes combative & resisting.

But they can touch you at will, whether you like it or not.
 
Hey,folks.Seems to be somewhat of a kerfluffle about this situation.But it was,nt a tense situation at all.They brought what they obviously saw as a minor faux-paus to my attention in a relaxed,friendly way.It was obvious they had no problem with my carrying a pistol,And I did'nt think a touch on the shoulder was in any way an aggresive move on the deputy's part.Like I said,Two very cool cops.Making sure my jackets zipped up this morning,though.
 
70% of all communication is non-verbal and the LEO was just making his comment more personal, in a friendly way.
 
Wow, personally I'd love to have every single cop in my town know who I was and the fact that I carry. I would rather the general public not know I was carrying, and the LEO pointing out that my concealed weapon was peaking out of my shirt seems like a courtesy to me, I probably would have bought them their coffee to show my appreciation...and maybe a donut. :) I don't know if the Military gave me this attitude or not, but I at a minimum respect the uniform, and until given a reason not to, I respect the person in that uniform. Try to see things like that from the LEO's perspective. Of course, I'm no longer 19 years old either with an attitude to match.

Dave
 
ChileRelleno said:
But they can touch you at will, whether you like it or not.
Click to expand...
I don't know what country you live in, but here in America cops can NOT just go around putting hands on people. There's something required called probable cause... Probable cause is protected by our constitution.

Different circumstances would obviously dictate different responses, but in the OP, I see nothing wrong. It was a friendly gesture, while also being a tactically sound choice on the part of the officer.

Yes, if a civilian puts an unexpected hand on an officer from behind, it will likely end up being a very bad day for that civilian. HOWEVER: if I police officer puts hands on me or mine in a violent manner, and has no probable cause or good reason, that cop won't be a cop for long.
 
I watched Stripes and Caddy shack last night while cleaning guns from the morning trip to the range.
 
Wow, someone has been handing out the tinfoil wholesale in this thread.

So, let me get this straight...if I, while on duty, choose to ignore someone displaying a handgun in this manner, I'm OK--but an abnormality.

If I choose to contact the person--as has been mentioned above--in a friendly, nonconfrontational way--then I'm instantly violating someone's civil rights.

Can't win for losing, right? I guess that no matter what we do, we're not people doing a job. None of us have a sense of right or wrong, any sense of decency, patriotism, or compassion--put on the uniform, and I'm immediately a JBT, bent on trampling your rights into the dirt, being an oppressor to the masses, and a murderous thug at heart--right?

Oh--and to the poster saying that tapping them on the shoulder is an invitation to a "counterattack"--toward a cop in uniform?

Whatever, dude. Whatever.
 
Powderman said:
Wow, someone has been handing out the tinfoil wholesale in this thread.

So, let me get this straight...if I, while on duty, choose to ignore someone displaying a handgun in this manner, I'm OK--but an abnormality.

If I choose to contact the person--as has been mentioned above--in a friendly, nonconfrontational way--then I'm instantly violating someone's civil rights.

Can't win for losing, right? I guess that no matter what we do, we're not people doing a job. None of us have a sense of right or wrong, any sense of decency, patriotism, or compassion--put on the uniform, and I'm immediately a JBT, bent on trampling your rights into the dirt, being an oppressor to the masses, and a murderous thug at heart--right?

Oh--and to the poster saying that tapping them on the shoulder is an invitation to a "counterattack"--toward a cop in uniform?

Whatever, dude. Whatever.
Click to expand...
I think you're hearing a couple responses to the vocal minority. If LEO comes up from behind me, puts a hand on my shoulder to discreetly let me know my gun is showing, I'm going to say "thanks" and probably make small talk with him/her while I'm waiting in line, or whatever I'm doing.

To me, that just a courtesy thing, LEO or Civilian.
 
Had an excellent experience with Wisconsin DNR law enforcement yesterday. Had my nephew (21) and 2 nieces (17 and 10) out squirrel hunting on public land. We were out on a gravel road, having just bagged a squirrel. The youngest wanted to know how to clean then, so I was taking her through it step by step.

We're wearing plenty of blaze orange, guns open and laid aside on the grass.

DNR ranger pulls up in his pickup, gets out. Asks how we are doing today and reminds us that pheasant hunting closes at 2pm in that area. Tells us to finish up what we are doing, and hangs out a few minutes, letting us finish our squirrel cleaning. Then just tells us to have a nice day, and it's not often he sees young ladies skinning out game. Doesn't even license check us, wishes us a good day, and drives off.

I was glad for the kids to have such a positive first experience with game law enforcement. They often ask why the hunting rules are so complicated, but we are sticklers for following them.
 
Thing is, what can you do if a police officer comes up and touches you? If you pull away, push away, or pretty much do anything other than take it and smile they will escalate the situation and you will be physically and legally harmed in a lesser or greater degree. On the street, you have no rights or recourse for defense when dealing with a person in uniform. Your rights kick in later when the case is under legal review.

It's sad to see that coming across cops acting with common sense, like normal human beings is so rare as to merit excitement and celebration.
 
I've breezed through this thread so I apologize if I missed anything...

But am I going to be the first to bring up that a hand on the shoulder is also the way to get someone's attention without bringing attention from anyone else?
 
I have no problem with a cop or any other person lighting tapping me on the shoulder to discreetly get my attention.

What i do object to is that a person could technically get in trouble for doing so to a police officer even if done with nothing but good intentions.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

T
  • Locked
Cop killed with Rhino ammo during DUI arrest
2 3
Replies
50
Views
4K
Matt G
M
M
  • Locked
Calif. Man Shoots Cop Then Kills Self While in Custody
Replies
10
Views
2K
Sven
S
P
  • Locked
Thief wounded, released by cops: victim's guns confiscated!
2 3 4
Replies
90
Views
3K
vito
V
A
  • Locked
MN: Gun store owner detains burglar
Replies
14
Views
1K
goalie
G
T
  • Locked
2 officers shot, one critically in Trotwood, Ohio
Replies
1
Views
2K
mrtgbnkr
M
Back
Top