Insignificant bill
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I believe that is falseIIRC, which I might not, I believe it is illegal to kill an endangered animal in CA even if it is attacking you.
I believe that is falseIIRC, which I might not, I believe it is illegal to kill an endangered animal in CA even if it is attacking you.
Bill, I believe you are correct.I believe that is false
I would think the dead brother would be a pretty good proof.You will be put thru the wringer tho to prove true self defense.
I got stuck in a wringer - once. Made it out with all my fingers.You will be put thru the wringer tho to prove true self defense.
You will be put thru the wringer tho to prove true self defense.
It's illegal to kill people in CA, too. But sometimes it's a necessity if they are attacking you.IIRC, which I might not, I believe it is illegal to kill an endangered animal in CA even if it is attacking you.
IIRC, which I might not, I believe it is illegal to kill an endangered animal in CA even if it is attacking you.
I suspect any of the guns you listed would be adequate for self-defense against mountain lions. I'm prone to using every excuse I can dream up for not going on my daily exercise walks, but I too "try" to walk for about 30 minutes every day. However, we already live "outside of town," I walk alongside a country road, usually by myself, and there's plenty of mountain lions (more than "plenty" if you were to ask our rancher friends) around here.I try to walk 4 or 5 times a week for exercise, and during nicer weather I usually do it on a trail outside of town, often before sundown. We don't have a lot of mountain lions in our state, but they are here, so this story has me thinking that a little bit more power in my carry handgun is needed for when I'm on the trail. There was a mountain lion sighting this year less than an hour to the east of us on the periphery of Omaha. The only large predators I get evidence of around here are coyotes, and I'm not much worried about them. Nevertheless, I almost always walk alone.
I have a Ruger LCP that's with me all the time. I'd prefer to take a revolver along as well when I trail walk, but the smallest powerful revolver I have is a more or less K frame size six shot Interarms Rossi .357 with a 3" barrel. It's a little bulkier and heavier than I'd like, as I prefer pocket carry for this purpose. I also have a polymer revolver which feels great for carry, but it's .38 +P, which might be ok on lions with Buffalo Bore ammo. I also have a Taurus slimline in .40 and a S&W Shield in .45acp. I'll probably end up using one of them unless anyone has a better idea.
A great uncle of mine liked to catch the trains and hobo around. Two railroad bulls (private police; sometimes the Pinkertons), caught him, beat him, then through him under the train, cutting his head off. My father's brothers watched the railroad bulls murder another man. At least in Southern Appalachia, hobos were banned back in the 1930s.Bill, I believe you are correct.
Are hobos endangered in CA?
I read a statement from the young men's family this morning . The reason they didn't have guns with them was that it was opening day of youth turkey season and they didn't want to bring attention to themselves . They are both avid outdoorsmen , hunters and fishermen .The cat did not ambush them , they came upon it and tried to bluff it off by raising their arms to look bigger , yelling and throwing stuff at it , but it attacked the younger brother , who survived . the older brother tried to fight it off of him and it got him by the neck . The other brother tried again to fight it off , but wasn't able to .He had to move to be able to get cell service to call for help , and came back with their vehicle to try again to get it away , but the cat and his brother were gone . After help came they sent the young man to the hospital and when they found the other brother the cat was crouched behind him and they couldn't get a safe clear shot , so they shot to scare it off and recovered the mans remains , then got more help . The cat was found treed about a hundred yards off and killed .
Sad deal . Two good young men who tried to do everything right , and it just didn't work out for them . I didn't see anything about the condition of the cat . To me this seems like a predatory attack , since the cat didn't want to leave the body . Its pretty ironic that California quit sport hunting cougar's right when they started hunting people . I hear they kill as many "problem animals" now as they were getting through hunting when they had it , anyway .
Twice now, both times at dusk. They badly scared me on both occasions, though there was nothing confrontational either time. Frankly, being armed was the only thing that kept me from wetting myself.How many here have actually seen a mountain lion? I have while hunting in Tulare Co. Ca a few years ago. Maybe 150+ yards away. We stopped and looked at each other for a split second and that cat was GONE! It was a bit uneasy around camp that evening, but, never heard/saw that cat again. A pretty chilling feeling to be sure. Don't like 'em at all.
"Easily provable" is a relative term. If you or your domestic animals have bites/claw marks it's easy, if not and the animal was shot from the side, you will probably find yourself facing heavy scrutiny. We have the occasional cougar here in Wisconsin. Has one attack the cattle of my DIL's neighbor and was scared off by a Turkey Hunter. When her dad asked the warden what constituted "self defense", he was told there had to be something other than just paw prints on the ground. We have several "self defense" bear shootings here almost ever year. About half of them are proved to be false.Easily provable if you call the States Game Wardens immediately and dont disturb the scene. People get in trouble when they try and hide/cover it up, and dont contact the GW's
Haven't seen a mountain lion face to face in the wild. (Zoo doesn't count.) But I did have a face to face encounter with a jaguar in the PetenHow many here have actually seen a mountain lion? I have while hunting in Tulare Co. Ca a few years ago. Maybe 150+ yards away. We stopped and looked at each other for a split second and that cat was GONE! It was a bit uneasy around camp that evening, but, never heard/saw that cat again. A pretty chilling feeling to be sure. Don't like 'em at all.
I've never seen a mountain lion face to face. (Zoo doesn't count.) But I've been face to face with a wild jaguar in the Petèn. The cat didn't threaten us, just seemed curious.How many here have actually seen a mountain lion? I have while hunting in Tulare Co. Ca a few years ago. Maybe 150+ yards away. We stopped and looked at each other for a split second and that cat was GONE! It was a bit uneasy around camp that evening, but, never heard/saw that cat again. A pretty chilling feeling to be sure. Don't like 'em at all.
People are recognizing good governance and flocking to it from the places where they've been shown how quickly things can go seriously sideways.
It seems to depend a lot upon where they are moving to, but it hasn't been a problem in FL for the past 4 years or so. DeSantis and the FL Legislature are so hated by the types who have repeatedly voted to destroy many a other states that those types are in the minority of people who move here. That group has hotlines, support groups, aid groups counsellors, etc., working to help persuade outsiders of their persuasion not to move here, and to help the ones who already live her relocate to a state more accommodating to their causes.I think its more like a child messing up their room and then moving on to another thats not already a wreck and carry on.
If they really recognized the cause and effect relationship, they wouldn't retain the same voting criteria, that caused the damage in the first place.