About the most useless "safety" device anyone could come up with. One of the requirements for a safety is that it be instantly disengaged. It did get the guns into this country, though.The Hammerli Virginian and Interarms Virginian Dragoon had the "Swisssafe System"-an extra long cylinder pin. Had 2 notches, it could be locked back to keep the hammer from falling.
I don't even recall Ruger being sued for the original design. They're just more litigiously minded from what I recall.Ever wonder why Ruger got taken to court so many times it forced them into switching to a transfer bar system, while during the same time Colt continued to build and sell their traditional SAAs with the original action and are still doing so? No transfer bars in the Colts to this day.
Dave
My Uberti that I purchased close to 20 years ago came with the "Swiss Safety" and the "Hammer Block Safety".About the most useless "safety" device anyone could come up with. One of the requirements for a safety is that it be instantly disengaged. It did get the guns into this country, though.
Bob Wright
The whole reason for the New Model action was Ruger losing lawsuits from folks who had a negligent discharge.I don't even recall Ruger being sued for the original design. They're just more litigiously minded from what I recall.
Uberti doesn't have a transfer bar or a floating firing pin. They have a retractable firing pin.Uberti moved away from that and instead now does a transfer bar or a floating retractable firing pin.
Retractable/floating.... same thing, different wording.The whole reason for the New Model action was Ruger losing lawsuits from folks who had a negligent discharge.
Uberti doesn't have a transfer bar or a floating firing pin. They have a retractable firing pin.
Why would carrying a SA revolver full but at half cock be less safe than load one skip one?
But the Octo barrel was what I wanted most.
At least two suits that I know of. One was a kid who stole the gun and shot himself in the leg with it when he dropped it. Sued Ruger and won. Ruger later won on appeal.I don't even recall Ruger being sued for the original design.
Nope, two completely different things.Retractable/floating.... same thing, different wording.
And they did have a transfer bar safety too at one time.
Cowboy Time Machine: Uberti Replaces SAA Transfer Bar w/Glock Style Floating Pin – Cattleman II Review
Uberti takes the classic SAA and adds safe carry of a sixth round!www.gunsamerica.com
Uberti makes guns, they made the Beretta Stampede. And since Beretta owns them, saying Uberti didn't make a gun with a transfer bar is like saying GM never made a luxury car since Cadillac is its own brand under the GM umbrella and that luxury model wasn't sold with a GM badge instead.Nope, two completely different things.
Rugers, New and Old, have a floating firing pin. The firing pin "floats" in the frame. It is not attached to the hammer.
The Uberti has a retractable firing pin, that only protrudes if the trigger is held back. The firing pin is still attached to the hammer, i.e., not floating.
The Cattleman II has a retractable firing pin, not a transfer bar. The only thing associated with Uberti to have a transfer bar is the Stampede they made for Beretta. Uberti has never used a transfer bar on their branded guns, or those of any of their importers. You obviously didn't read the article you linked.
Here's what I said.Uberti makes guns, they made the Beretta Stampede. And since Beretta owns them, saying Uberti didn't make a gun with a transfer bar is like saying GM never made a luxury car since Cadillac is its own brand under the GM umbrella and that luxury model wasn't sold with a GM badge instead.
I see no reason for anyone to get their knickers in a twist. Discussions are organic. They ebb and flow as they do. Is this your first time discussing guns with others?Yup. That's the internet I guess. A question about a specific thing turns into a debate about something. Should have seen that coming.
Thank you to those that actually discussed why half cock isn't a good substitute for load one skip one.
The rest of this was how many angels cab dance on the head of a pin...
I had a Pietta with a transfer bar a while back. It was a "Cabelas" marked gun. I currently have an EAA with the bar. I know they are put there, just can't find an octagon.