Coyotes are getting to be more and more of a problem around here. The crazy cat lady has no more cats, and neither does just about anyone else who lets them out. I took the trash out one morning and there was a biggun' standing at the end of our driveway watching me. Only reason I don't have a nice Coyote pelt on the wall is 'cuz he was gone when I got back with a pistol.
coyotes getting bolder
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MD_Willington
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They eat my neighbors cats, the cats breed like crazy around here, so the coyotes will head into town for a quick bite...
Sindawe
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I guess we all now understand how the world's aboriginal populations felt when facing the relentless spread of the white man, eh? 
Since that ARE doing so well, perhaps its time to usher in a new fashion trend for coyote fur?
Since that ARE doing so well, perhaps its time to usher in a new fashion trend for coyote fur?
Have you noticed that all the wild predator animals seem less afraid of people?
I don't think we have encrochted on their territory as much as they no longer see people as predators so if we aren't predators then we must be prey.
Seriously, with all the no shooting areas and less hunting of wild animals they just don't recognize humans as predators.
Not just coyotes either, bear, cougar, even geese and deer are getting bolder towards humans.
I don't think we have encrochted on their territory as much as they no longer see people as predators so if we aren't predators then we must be prey.
Seriously, with all the no shooting areas and less hunting of wild animals they just don't recognize humans as predators.
Not just coyotes either, bear, cougar, even geese and deer are getting bolder towards humans.
hrgrisso
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Arizona Coyote's!
In response to the original post Metro Phoenix and Tucson have both had a massive increase in issues with scavengers, namely Coyote.
In Az. you can't discharge a firearm in city limits to save a pet. Sorry folks. Just the way it is.
Of course I don't disagree it's time to cull the packs. A silenced .223 or even a .22 mag and a license to do it and I'll take care of the problems free of charge!
In response to the original post Metro Phoenix and Tucson have both had a massive increase in issues with scavengers, namely Coyote.
In Az. you can't discharge a firearm in city limits to save a pet. Sorry folks. Just the way it is.
Of course I don't disagree it's time to cull the packs. A silenced .223 or even a .22 mag and a license to do it and I'll take care of the problems free of charge!
sfhogman
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There are now coyotes living in San Francisco. They're found in the Potrero Hill area, and in the west end of Golden Gate Park. GG Park is absolutely full of feral cats fed by little old ladies; there are no longer many songbirds, quail or brush rabbits. Just kitties.
If I were with SF Animal Control I might have introduced the 'yotes myself and just kept quiet about it.
This should be interesting....San Francisco coyotes...hee hee...hee...
If I were with SF Animal Control I might have introduced the 'yotes myself and just kept quiet about it.
This should be interesting....San Francisco coyotes...hee hee...hee...
harrygunner
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Heard one growl.
I walk at night into an area that has deer, coyotes, etc. I'll see the silhouette of a yote crossing the trail ahead or simply hear them howling in the distance.
One time, on the way back home, I heard a growl/huff from the brush that was impressive. I
knew it did not sound like a black bear but, it did sound like the animal making the noise was big.
Must be a rare occurrence since I hear them yap all the time, but, it's the first growl I've heard.
I walk at night into an area that has deer, coyotes, etc. I'll see the silhouette of a yote crossing the trail ahead or simply hear them howling in the distance.
One time, on the way back home, I heard a growl/huff from the brush that was impressive. I
knew it did not sound like a black bear but, it did sound like the animal making the noise was big.
Must be a rare occurrence since I hear them yap all the time, but, it's the first growl I've heard.
One of my friends neighbors almost lost a youngish Lab to a coyote about a year ago. It came into their yard, and just sat and watched them until the Lab approached it. Then the coyote did the typical "Lets play!" posture at the dog (push the front of the body down, paws out, looking up) and when the pup responded in the usual fashion (rearing up) the coyote went for the pups' throat. She hit the coyote with a water hose until it let go, then grabbed the Lab, ran inside, and called the police. They ended up shooting it, and the pup needed something like 40 stitches to close the wounds.
the naked prophet
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A guy in my church was surrounded with a pack of coyotes while deer hunting in central MO. He was with his cousin, had an 8mm Mauser and his cousin had some semiauto .30-06 and they were sitting right next to each other. The coyotes surrounded them and started closing in, when his cousin opened up with the 06 and drove them away.
Then, the next day I was hunting with my dad and I heard them yodeling all around us. Pretty scary, not being the only predator around.
Then, the next day I was hunting with my dad and I heard them yodeling all around us. Pretty scary, not being the only predator around.
Crunker1337
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vynx, I know what you're saying. I can understand where some people who want to "save the animals" are coming from, but while we shouldn't just go around and randomly attack any non-human creature, it is important to instill a healthy respect in them for us. In this country, only domestic animals have any kind of respect for humans. Attacks on humans by bears, cougars, coyotes etc have all been increasing in the last say 20 years. We're no longer predators.
20 years ago, being assertive would have been enough to scare off many a large predator; as the predator knew that the human is a very serious threat. Now however, all humans normally do is shout and scream, but can't back it up with force.
As I'm fortunate enough to live in a densely populated suburb close to two large cities in the most populated state in the US of A, I don't really have much experience with dangerous animals (though I had a near run-in with a very large mean and scary dog a few weeks ago). I can tell however that even geese and ducks have no fear of humans. When I was a kid I remember 3' tall geese coming far too close for comfort, and now they will literally attack a kid with food.
20 years ago, being assertive would have been enough to scare off many a large predator; as the predator knew that the human is a very serious threat. Now however, all humans normally do is shout and scream, but can't back it up with force.
As I'm fortunate enough to live in a densely populated suburb close to two large cities in the most populated state in the US of A, I don't really have much experience with dangerous animals (though I had a near run-in with a very large mean and scary dog a few weeks ago). I can tell however that even geese and ducks have no fear of humans. When I was a kid I remember 3' tall geese coming far too close for comfort, and now they will literally attack a kid with food.
Holy crap! The wilderness is full of wild animals? Wild animals that will take easy prey... say it ain't so.
Didn't we just have a thread about feral kitties? Coyote populations are increasing because people give them all sorts of yummy things like garbage, cats and rodent sized mutts to feed on. Coyotes have been great for my folk's area; the native wildlife doesn't have to deal with cats and people don't leave their yappy mutts out all night.
Didn't we just have a thread about feral kitties? Coyote populations are increasing because people give them all sorts of yummy things like garbage, cats and rodent sized mutts to feed on. Coyotes have been great for my folk's area; the native wildlife doesn't have to deal with cats and people don't leave their yappy mutts out all night.
ArfinGreebly
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Carson City.
We get deer regularly.
Coyotes occasionally. Big healthy ones.
Rabbits and squirrels everywhere.
And a bear now and then.
Can't shoot the 'yotes unless they're doing predation on livestock or people.
My old boss lives up the hill from us near the tree line. Uses a .22 mag to "keep order" among the 'yotes. They pretty much leave his place alone.
They ain't dumb.
Carson City.
We get deer regularly.
Coyotes occasionally. Big healthy ones.
Rabbits and squirrels everywhere.
And a bear now and then.
Can't shoot the 'yotes unless they're doing predation on livestock or people.
My old boss lives up the hill from us near the tree line. Uses a .22 mag to "keep order" among the 'yotes. They pretty much leave his place alone.
They ain't dumb.
Peter Gun
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so other states dont have open season on coyotes? I thought that was common. here in vt, you see a coyote, you shoot it if you want.
ArfinGreebly
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Not A Season Issue
It's not "seasons" that are at issue.
It's the "within city limits" problem.
You discharge a firearm, you will have a black-and-white party within minutes.
The only acceptable reasons for in-city discharges are defending human life and that of livestock.
It's not "seasons" that are at issue.
It's the "within city limits" problem.
You discharge a firearm, you will have a black-and-white party within minutes.
The only acceptable reasons for in-city discharges are defending human life and that of livestock.
MinnMooney
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We have quite a few coyotes in N. central Minnesota but they get hunted quite a bit so we don't see much of them during the daylight hours. My trail cam captures them occasionally though. My dogs are fairly safe from them 'cause they're let in at night but we've had several incidenses of rabbit-hunting beagles getting baited by coyotes and then pack-killed.
Porcupines seem to be a bigger problem for me 'cause my dog just doesn't seem to get it. He'll run right up to the damn things and the results are oh-so predictable. They eat the heck out of my trees, also, so I'll shoot them on sight.
Porcupines seem to be a bigger problem for me 'cause my dog just doesn't seem to get it. He'll run right up to the damn things and the results are oh-so predictable. They eat the heck out of my trees, also, so I'll shoot them on sight.
MinnMooney
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As far as shooting within city limits..... archery might work if you can get close enough or sub-sonic 22LR cartridges make very little sound. I used to shoot from inside the house though an open window and the neighbors never heard me. Just make sure that the whole barrel is inside of the house.
ArfinGreebly
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Porky-pines
MinnMooney, kill the porkypines.
If your dog ain't got any more sense than ours did, the porky will eventually kill the dog with its quills.
Train the dog or kill the porky things.
Lost our favorite dog that way.
He could just never let it be. Time after time, we wound up using pliers or visiting the vet.
That last trip to the vet really sucked. We cried all the way there and all the way back.
MinnMooney, kill the porkypines.
If your dog ain't got any more sense than ours did, the porky will eventually kill the dog with its quills.
Train the dog or kill the porky things.
Lost our favorite dog that way.
He could just never let it be. Time after time, we wound up using pliers or visiting the vet.
That last trip to the vet really sucked. We cried all the way there and all the way back.
They're becoming very populous in my area (Upstate NY)....Seen them in my backyard a couple times, and one HUGE one right up by the house, in the driveway(all in broad daylight). Unfortunately none stuck around long enough for me to get a gun. Often see them in the fields, when driving the expressway, as well.
We do have a "season" here, so it would be ...ahem....illegal for me to shoot them outa season. BUT, SSS (shoot, shovel and shut-up) as far as I'm concerned.
What I find interesting, is that while there is obviously a significant population in my area, I NEVER hear them yodeling, although some of my friends have heard them in the distance, in other areas.
We do have a "season" here, so it would be ...ahem....illegal for me to shoot them outa season. BUT, SSS (shoot, shovel and shut-up) as far as I'm concerned.
What I find interesting, is that while there is obviously a significant population in my area, I NEVER hear them yodeling, although some of my friends have heard them in the distance, in other areas.
Rugerman07 I couldn't agree more. When my father bought me my 10/22 one of the first things he made clear was if I saw a coyote, bobcat or a fisher cat, was that it was shoot on sight for them. This coming from a man that feels bad shooting a woodchuck.
ArfinGreebly: My father used to shoot porcupines, they are also a fisher cats favorite meal. he would shoot some, and when he came back the next day there would only be some quills from a fisher eating it. We used to have a bunch in my area, but fisher cats fixed our "problem".
Il Duca: I had the same problem with a coyote, in the fact that it didn't stay put long enough for me to grab my fathers .357
Anyone else have any problems with fishercats in their area? You can never see them to shoot them sadly. Few years ago a bunch of neighborhood cats and some geese disappeared due to them. Fortunately trapping keeps most of the fisher cat, bobcat, and coyote problem under control for us. Also helps that everyone in the neighborhood has a 22.
ArfinGreebly: My father used to shoot porcupines, they are also a fisher cats favorite meal. he would shoot some, and when he came back the next day there would only be some quills from a fisher eating it. We used to have a bunch in my area, but fisher cats fixed our "problem".
Il Duca: I had the same problem with a coyote, in the fact that it didn't stay put long enough for me to grab my fathers .357
Anyone else have any problems with fishercats in their area? You can never see them to shoot them sadly. Few years ago a bunch of neighborhood cats and some geese disappeared due to them. Fortunately trapping keeps most of the fisher cat, bobcat, and coyote problem under control for us. Also helps that everyone in the neighborhood has a 22.
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romma
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We've lost two cats to coyotes since late winter. Our closest neighbor 1/4 mile a ways cat went missing now also.
I sat with a predator call one day hoping one would come along but I got Nuttin!
I sat with a predator call one day hoping one would come along but I got Nuttin!
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