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I almost hate to revive this thread, but I just saw it last night (Yay, Tivo...).

I could deal with the Metalstorm/Vaporizer BS; that just made a cartoon out of it.

What bothered me the most, oddly, was when the badguy gunrunners are standing there, checking out a whole truckload of AR's, and suddenly suspect that "they have company".
So what do they do? They put down the rifles, and draw their handguns to go investigate! :banghead:

Of course I had to hit "pause", and rant about this to my wife. (She tolerates me, but sometimes just barely.)
 
CSI: Howdy-Doody! Man I didn't know Howdy-Doody grew up to be an alcoholic bad actor........Lt. Howdy-Doody Cane.
I find it funny that in one of the cities in which seems to be so sunny all the time, that the star of the show has about 3 pigments to his skin, yet never seems to burn, he must be some kind of tough-guy!!
 
That's why he keeps his head turned and talks sideways all the time.

The other side of his face is an Oozing Third-Degree Sunburn. :fire:

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The episode is available here for free, is legal, has advertisments:
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1621736ZzzjcyjR

I'm watching it now. The 'vaporizing' effect was poorly done technically. And apparently metalstorm also turns bones into a fine mist and the solid wall of bullets is apparently 6 feet tall by 4 feet wide.

Just watched the first few minutes, haven't even seen what it looks like yet. But it seems pretty horrendous.

I will give the show style though. Its very stylish. But the plots are crazy and the its not very accurate. Apparently to check a truckload of AR-15s/M4s all you need to do is insert the magazine and draw back the charging handle and look at it, then hold it to your shoulder. GOOD TO GO!

And I didn't get a great look but I think both guys pulled colt commanders as their sidearms.
 
They sunk out of sight for me several seasons back when they "investigated" a woman gun owner/shooter found shot to death by a spent bullet(projectile) that was picked up by a windstorm, accelerated to velocity, striking said woman in the head, and penetrating enough to kill her.
They of course bad mouthed anyone who shot guns.
At that point I knew they were F.O.C.
 
:confused: :scrutiny: This is TV,

DNA tech like that doesent even exist (at least LEO who knows what .gov has)

Don't any of these TV detectives button their shirts

That is the hokiest death scene outside of "Savage Planet" (eg Space Bears)

The camera angles almost caused me to fall out of my chair


This show is doing some serious damage to the RTKBA.
 
Rick O'Shea said:
What bothered me the most, oddly, was when the badguy gunrunners are standing there, checking out a whole truckload of AR's, and suddenly suspect that "they have company".
So what do they do? They put down the rifles, and draw their handguns to go investigate!
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Yeah, well, having rifles is one thing, but maybe they had no ammo for them.



On second thought ... why do I feel any need to defend the show???

*SIGH*
 
Amazing. Watched the entire episode. The CSI gang can identify highly exotic rounds with ease. They can match DNA in under 24 hours. They are able to locate the single print that matters. They never have trouble with prints by non-concerned parties...
But they can't turn off a laptop computer???
 
The CSI episodes are pretty Hokey for sure. The "Metalstorm" was on Future Weapons a while back and simply amazing! Caseless ammo and a rate of fire that makes a Minigun seem like a single action revolver!
 
I can't handle any of them but the original CSI in Vegas. I know the science on the show is crap but so is much of what you see on TV and in movies. I'm no fun to watch movies with if they involve airplanes, military stuff (especially military aviation) or guns. I know very little about most of the stuff on CSI so I can enjoy it.
 
This episode was terrible. Anti-gun and anti-independent contractors, anti-Bush administration too. Also the metal storm rip-off was funny in that these guys apparently ran around with it aiming it at people. It would make more sense to just use regular guns, as they are actual mobile.

Also, this trained professional sniper/assassin doesn't wear full gloves? Leaves behind shell casings AND finger prints? Terrible episode and not accurate at all.

Also, I saw a scene for a different episode where one of them is holding up what looked to be a .223, it had a red tip I think, so clearly it must have been a "cop killer" and the one guy says something along the lines like "It's a monster round, can penetrate up to 43 levels of Kevlar."

haha. First off, .223 is nowhere close to being a monster round, even if you somehow filled it with C4 primed to explode. Also, 43 levels of kevlar? That'd stop pretty much anything. I'd reckon it might even stop a 50cal. Maybe not, but still.

And back to the "vaporizer" its ridiculous to think you could shoot a person to a fine mist like that. BLAH.
 
Also, 43 levels of kevlar? That'd stop pretty much anything.
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Shockingly, that's an accurate statement.

43 layers of Kevlar is not much against a rifle. Soft vests are made of many (16 or 32 or more) layers of Kevlar, not just one big blob.

Compared to a typical medium-range handgun cartridge, it is a monster round.

Everything else they said, of course...
 
Lurp said:
the blonde haired chick carries a Stainless Kimber .45 1911. I saw a slow motion shot where they had a close up of her and the gun and I am pretty sure I saw "Kimber" across the slide
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You are correct!!

I found this
Calleigh once carried a "Lady Smith" 3913 semi-auto. It is a 9mm but I spoke with Corey Miller, who said she now uses a Kimber compact .45 caliber semi automatic. So it's different than the one Wolfe said he used in the episode. There are standard issue weapons, but people may also choose different weapons that are best suited to them. How cool is that! The actors get to use their choice of weapon.
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about Calleigh Duquesne's guns at this link.

I cringe all through out any of the CSI shows. Their computer forensics and tricks is staggeringly stupid. But I do love watching Emily Proctor.
 
Emily Proctor is the only reason I watch the show at all. At least her character is a pro-gun, "I love thiese things" babe.
 
Emily Proctor is the only reason I watch the show at all. At least her character is a pro-gun, "I love these things" babe.
 
VirgilCaine, the way they said I thought they were meaning that it would penetrate through 43 Kevlar Vests (or maybe 21 kevlar vests that have a front back both made of kevlar) and not just layers of kevlar woven together to be thick.

Would the .223 actually penetrate 20+ Kevlar vests? Assuming no ballistic plates, something more in line with police issue.

And I found Emily Proctor's character to be fairly anti-gun in the metal storm episode. Although she is clearly a firearms expert as just picking up a bullet allowed her to ID the exact weapon it came from and constantly saying that the metal storm was "illegal."

Uhhh yeah. Also, metal storm isn't for sale to people. In the show, it was a private military contractor who had it, and I think they get a little leeway when it comes to arms. = )
 
How long would it take to reload? Also would fmj vaporize as well as hp?
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Apparantly the unit showed on the show used a circuit board-like device to rout the charge correctly. Theoretly, if it was modular, simply pulling the "board" and replacing it with a new one, and assuring the contacts were not shorted, would be as fast as it takes.

And as to "vaporizing;" with that many bullets fired that quickly, I doubt it would make any difference at all if the rounds were FMJs or hollowpoints.
 
My nephew is one of the editors on that show. I don't envy him, trying to make something good out of the film he gets.

My wife and I watch the show just to pick it apart. The whole purpose of the show is to give David Caruso a vehicle for posing, talking tough and screwing with his sunglasses. What a jackass....

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