Curious About Wet Tumbling Using Dishwasher Pods?

[CQB45ACP]

Just wet tumbled w/pins some really sooty 45acp cases using Cascade brand dishwasher pods.

Used one pod in hot water in my FART-lite for two hours. Picture says it all—works great.

Now how long till tarnish begins? We’ll have to wait and see.

I’m still a fan of Dawn & Lemishine but will now use these critters until they’re gone.

 

[King Medallion]

Why would they tarnish?

 

[CQB45ACP]

Why would they tarnish?

Exposure to air

 

[gudaki]

I'd use them if I had them handy.

 

[lightman]

Interesting! The brass looks good. I'm going to say that they will start to tarnish immediately but so slow that you won't notice. Why? Because they are so clean that theres no protection left on them. Thats the reason that I've switched from Dawn to ArmorAll Wash & Wax.

 

[Buzznrose]

Brass looks good. I also use AAWW to inhibit tarnish. But YMMV

 

[JmacD]

Thats the reason that I've switched from Dawn to ArmorAll Wash & Wax.

I tried that and they coated up with gunk.

 

[Buzznrose]

I tried that and they coated up with gunk.

? How much did you use?

 

[LiveLife]

I would suggest wet tumble to clean brass surface and dry tumble with NuFinish to coat brass surface with residual polymer (Not wax) to prevent tarnish for years ...

 

[Highland Lofts]

I use ArmorAll Wash n Wax, Lemishine and a small squirt of Dawn.

When rinse and run again for fifteen minutes in hot water and cap full of ArmorAll Wash n Wax they do not tarnish.

 

[9mmepiphany]

? How much did you use?

That was the question that popped into my mind also. Must have been a lot as I've been using AAWW for years without any result even close to that

 

[Buzznrose]

That was the question that popped into my mind also. Must have been a lot as I've been using AAWW for years without any result even close to that

Me too. I maybe use a TBSP or so…works great.

 

[CQB45ACP]

I use ArmorAll Wash n Wax, Lemishine and a small squirt of Dawn.

When rinse and run again for fifteen minutes in hot water and cap full of ArmorAll Wash n Wax they do not tarnish.

So to be a little more specific so I can try it—an hour or more of the three part mix to clean, then completely rinse and 15 more minutes of one part to protect?

How much of each in first stage? A small squirt is a little too vague for me

 

[Skgreen]

I use 1 ounce of AAWW in my full-sized (7 liter) FA tumbler. More soap doesn't always mean 'more clean'. The amount of suds left over is a good indicator of how much soap is needed.

 

[JmacD]

I use 1 ounce of AAWW in my full-sized (7 liter) FA tumbler. More soap doesn't always mean 'more clean'. The amount of suds left over is a good indicator of how much soap is needed.

Ditto! Water used has a huge effect as well. I work in the water treatment industry, and hardness, dissolved solids etc are all huge variables. I personally use RO water. The aaww didn’t work that great, but everything else has.

 

[CQB45ACP]

Ditto! Water used has a huge effect as well. I work in the water treatment industry, and hardness, dissolved solids etc are all huge variables. I personally use RO water. The aaww didn’t work that great, but everything else has.

What’s RO water?

 

[Highland Lofts]

I've bought and sold a lot of range brass, close to 2 1/2 tons of it and wet tumbled all of it in my large Frankford Arsenal wet tumbler.
I us hot tap water.
1/2 a teaspoon of Lemishine
A cap full of ArmorAll Wash n Wax
About 1/ 2 a teaspoon of Dawn.
Let it run for an hour.
Drain and rinse. Fill up the drum and flip end over end and drain until water is clean.
Fill back up with hot water and add a cap full of ArmorAll Wash n Wax and let run for another 15 minutes.
Dump and dry.
I use to get the tarnished brass looking like new by working with it. It takes to much effort so I seperate it and use it for my own personal use.
Some people don't use Dawn and they use cold water. The hot water cuts the crude better then cold water.( Wash greasy -oily dirty hands in cold water then in hot water and see for yoursel).
The dawn dish soap suspends the crude in the water for easier disposal.
Everyone has thier own thoughts of wet tumbling so you need to experiment until you find what works for you.

 

[CQB45ACP]

I've bought and sold a lot of range brass, close to 2 1/2 tons of it and wet tumbled all of it in my large Frankford Arsenal wet tumbler.
I us hot tap water.
1/2 a teaspoon of Lemishine
A cap full of ArmorAll Wash n Wax
About 1/ 2 a teaspoon of Dawn.
Let it run for an hour.
Drain and rinse. Fill up the drum and flip end over end and drain until water is clean.
Fill back up with hot water and add a cap full of ArmorAll Wash n Wax and let run for another 15 minutes.
Dump and dry.
I use to get the tarnished brass looking like new by working with it. It takes to much effort so I seperate it and use it for my own personal use.
Some people don't use Dawn and they use cold water. The hot water cuts the crude better then cold water.( Wash greasy -oily dirty hands in cold water then in hot water and see for yoursel).
The dawn dish soap suspends the crude in the water for easier disposal.
Everyone has thier own thoughts of wet tumbling so you need to experiment until you find what works for you.

Thanks

I just look for best most consistent way to achieve jewelry like results (not actually joking) so I experiment a lot.

Best so far and by far is Frankford’s little pods but at $1/per they’re too rich for my blood.

Dawn/Lemishine works great when I get right formula but I swear my municipality changes the water and throws me off.

I’ve tried others but am still looking for the perfect solution thus I bought the Cascade pods.

I’ll try your’s. I think the rinse then short tumble is a good way to get some tarnish resistance which I like better than hand polishing which I actually do.

But again, I’m after jewelry like results so who knows where it ends?

 

[Buzznrose]

To be more specific, if I am cleaning range pickup or otherwise really dirty/tarnished brass, I generally wet tumble twice.

First tumble is a healthy squirt of Dawn or Ajax dish soap and a 9MM shell full of citric acid/Lemishine, tumbled at least 2 hours, sometimes 3 in a full size FART. Water is 2/3 -3/4 full. I also add steel pins.

Then, I deprime all brass with a Lee depriming die on single stage press

Finally, I wet tumble for 2 hours with about an ounce of AAWW. I may or may not use pins this time.

I now dry brass with a dehydrator. Used to use hot TX sun which worked great if I had a breeze…but dehydrator is easier as I can now do this at night vice weekends.

I store brass in tubs with desiccant.

 

[CQB45ACP]

To be more specific, if I am cleaning range pickup or otherwise really dirty/tarnished brass, I generally wet tumble twice.

First tumble is a healthy squirt of Dawn or Ajax dish soap and a 9MM shell full of citric acid/Lemishine, tumbled at least 2 hours, sometimes 3 in a full size FART. Water is 2/3 -3/4 full. I also add steel pins.

Then, I deprime all brass with a Lee depriming die on single stage press

Finally, I wet tumble for 2 hours with about an ounce of AAWW. I may or may not use pins this time.

I now dry brass with a dehydrator. Used to use hot TX sun which worked great if I had a breeze…but dehydrator is easier as I can now do this at night vice weekends.

I store brass in tubs with desiccant.

I can replicate everything you say except the Texas sun. I’ll go to great lengths to get shiny brass, but not 1000 miles

 

[9mmepiphany]

I often refrain from commenting in the hope of learning something new. Let me start with a few observations.

1. If you're not going to deprime first...because having shinny primer pockets aren't that important to you...there really isn't a need to use pins. The cases rubbing against each other will do a good job if you tumble a couple of hours (for shinny) or a hour (for brushed)
1a. If you are going to deprime first, the effort would be wasted if you don't use pins

2. Understand what each addition to the water (generally) does
2a. Lemishine (critric acid) breaks down the carbon.
2a.1. How much you need to use is dependent on the hardness of your water
2b. Your detergent keeps the dirt/carbon suspended (helps it slip off) when it has been scraped off the cases. You want minimal suds at the end of your cleaning cycle

3. You will get better results if you start with hot water and rinse out with cold water

4. When it is a above 90 degrees out, laying the wet cases in the sun works. If it isn't that warm out, putting them in a roasting pan in the oven at 215 degrees (water boils at 212 degrees) for 20mins works really well too.

I personally only reload handgun cartridges and don't deprime before cleaning. Using the full sized FART, I add a .45ACP case of Lenishine and a dollop of AAWW (about a cap full). I run it for 1.5-2 hours, drain, rinse until water is clear, roll on a towel (to remove excess water) and then dry. No tarnish for months when packed away in plastic coffee ground containers

 

[lightman]

I tried that and they coated up with gunk.

I've never had that problem. Like Buzznrose, I'm wondering how much you used. A cap full does the job for me. You want to use enough to have some suds left when you open the drum.

 

[Blue68f100]

If your pins are coming out black your not using enough soap is another indicator.

 

[CQB45ACP]

I often refrain from commenting in the hope of learning something new. Let me start with a few observations.

1. If you're not going to deprime first...because having shinny primer pockets aren't that important to you...there really isn't a need to use pins. The cases rubbing against each other will do a good job if you tumble a couple of hours (for shinny) or a hour (for brushed)
1a. If you are going to deprime first, the effort would be wasted if you don't use pins

2. Understand what each addition to the water (generally) does
2a. Lemishine (critric acid) breaks down the carbon.
2a.1. How much you need to use is dependent on the hardness of your water
2b. Your detergent keeps the dirt/carbon suspended (helps it slip off) when it has been scraped off the cases. You want minimal suds at the end of your cleaning cycle

3. You will get better results if you start with hot water and rinse out with cold water

4. When it is a above 90 degrees out, laying the wet cases in the sun works. If it isn't that warm out, putting them in a roasting pan in the oven at 215 degrees (water boils at 212 degrees) for 20mins works really well too.

I personally only reload handgun cartridges and don't deprime before cleaning. Using the full sized FART, I add a .45ACP case of Lenishine and a dollop of AAWW (about a cap full). I run it for 1.5-2 hours, drain, rinse until water is clear, roll on a towel (to remove excess water) and then dry. No tarnish for months when packed away in plastic coffee ground containers

Good stuff

 

[Yamifrk]

This works pretty good