cyote/varmint rifle needed

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i cant really shoot at the rifle range till december so i have time to save up. i want a .223 cal bolt gun, and want to spend no more than 1,000 with rifle scope and case. I kindof like the full stock desighn but not necessary. wood, not synthetic, is necessary though.
 
love the stock, ill look into czs got a good rep but i prefer american made. scope recommendations would be good too, going to be shooting 100-300 yards.
 
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The rear sight on the rifle may interfere with the objective lense of the scope, and may need to be removed. It is a dovetail base for which rings are readily available from all the major manufacturers.

I'd say go for it if you think the rifle appeals to you. I love my LUX in 223.
 
it does appeal to me the only other full stock ive managed to find is a ruger 77 but i heard they have awful triggers.
 
I'm thinking of a p'dog gun myself and I have narrowed it down to a Savage. They have the accutrigger and make some with thumbhole laminate stocks that rock.
 
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I recently bought a Ruger KM77VT MkII Target Grey rifle in .223. It has a very good trigger and I shot a couple of 3 shot groups this afternoon at 100 yards with a 50gr. Hornady V-Max bullet. One group with Varget was .375 inch and one with Benchmark was .4375 inch.

I would recommend the Ruger.
 
There are so many great choices in rifles out there now for coyotes, pairie dogs, ground hogs, etc.

From Savage to CZ to Tikka to Remington to Ruger to Weatherby and the list goes on.

I have some of those and know friends who have the others. We're all satisfied customer.

Another question is what caliber do you want for yotes or varmints?

.22-250, .223, .204, 243 are all great choices. I wouldn't go any higher than the .243 for that purpose.
 
I bought this Savage mod 11 in .223 a few months ago, it was a little over $700+ tax. You could probably do a little better on Gunbroker. I found the rifle to be a tack driver with 60 grain bullets. The accutrigger is pretty nice but does take a little getting used to. I went with a Leupold VXIII LR scope which would put you over budget but there are others out there that will do the job on that rifle.

Pic of mine...
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the cz receiver bridge is made to accept cz mounts/rings. they are the best , made from cut , barstock steel, the rear mount will have a female "inny" nipple on it, and the rear mount/ring you buy will have the male nipple. they areso rock solid. I would look for a cz first, but I would look at one with a faster twist than the 527. I have two of them, one in 762.39 as well, but the 223 has a 1/12 twist, which only hold rounds up to 62 grains accurately. anything heavier, and they start going all over the place.
 
other than a cz, the next two I would look at would be a savage, and a howa, with long heavy bbls, and synth stocks.
 
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The Ruger M77 and the Ruger M77VT are two very different rifles.
I have an M77VT that is an easy sub MOA rifle.
 
Savage and I do not mix, that said a Ruger 77 Varm. can be had for $500 as well as a Rem 700 SPS Varm. in .223. You should have no problems what so ever. I even bought one from the dreaded overpriced Dick's.
 
i cant really shoot at the rifle range till december so i have time to save up. i want a .223 cal bolt gun, and want to spend no more than 1,000 with rifle scope and case. I kindof like the full stock desighn but not necessary. wood, not synthetic, is necessary though.
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Couple things:

1. Please, PLEASE use proper capitalization and punctuation. It makes the forum so much nicer and makes people take your questions more seriously and help you out more.

2. Good news: You've got a myriad of choice in a bolt gun in .223 in that price range. So much so that you'll probably have much difficulty deciding.

3. You've picked an excellent caliber choice and great choice in wanting a turnbolt and a wood stocked gun. You're on the right track for accuracy and thus a smile plastered on your face.

4. You're going to want to spend about as much on the scope as you do on the rifle, so about 1/2 & 1/2. Or at least spend 1/2 as much on the scope as you do on the rifle. Good glass has to be paid for and it is worth it. You really need to decide up front what your ratio is going to be - how much for rifle allotted and how much for scope?

4. I'd be starting out by looking at: New or Used: Savage 25, Savage 10 or 11 or 12 or 14, CZ 527, Weatherby Vanguard, and Howa 1500 Varmint. Or, Used: Remington Seven, Remington 700 LTR, Rem 700 VLS, Remington XR100 rangemaster, Browning A-Bolt, or Winchester 70. It's gonna be awfully hard to sneak one of these latter ones in under the budget new and still have enough left for decent glass. I don't think Tikka offers a wood stock do they?

5. Look at this fairly recent thread, what I considered, and what I ended up going with:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=382142&highlight=.223*

6. You probably need to decide, first and foremost, do you want: (a) a lightweight .223 for lugging around in the field, (b) a heavyweight bench gun for max accuracy and pleasantness, or (c) a mid-weight "jack-of-all trades" gun, which is heavy enough to dissipate a little heat and turn in excellent accuracy, but light enough to carry a little ways in the field without looking ridiculous and wearing yourself out. I went with (c) myself.

7. You should also decide whether you want a traditional varminter rifle with a 1 in 12" or 1 in 14" twist, which is best with light bullets in the 40-62 gr range, or a rifle with a 1 in 8" or 1 in 9" twist, which will shoot the light ones well, but also shoot heavier bullets well. Savage and Tikka and NEW Rems and CERTAIN CZs have the faster twist rate. Maybe others.

More later...
 
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I just saw a Remington SPS Varmint in .223 at Dicks... I believe it was around $550 NIB with scope and rings (not a great scope). That will leave you some cash to upgrade the scope and stock.

I think I will grab one in .308 soon.
 
My Ruger 77 MKII VT Target in 22-250 is a great yote gun. It's extremely accurate with handloads using 55 BT Noslers. They "blowdsemup reeeeaaaly good!":eek:


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Weight doesnt really matter for me, id probably have a sling and i went on a 2 hour hike w/ garand at port arms in basic, so i know id have no problem with a lighter rifle in relaxed carry. I do know i do not want synthetic stock, laminate is ok. Scope would have to be variable power so i could have it at like 3 or 4 times magnification hunting and higher for varmints
 
Have been shooting for a lifetime and fired some competition when in the Corps. I have a Savage in 223 with a plain jane Bushnell 3X9X40 and it works just fine. It does have synthetic furniture and I like it. I don't have to worry about it ever needing refinishing. If I were into flash then a pretty stock is what I would want. I have a Savage in 220 Swift also, the scope is also a Bushnell but much stronger. LOL, I can see a knat lighting on a fly at 2000 yards and take one of his eyes out--some would say that is quite a stretch--Hmmmm, wc
 
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