CZ 455 Standard range report

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chicharrones said:
Shooting at -19C (-2.2F) with a breeze? You did better than I would have done, Frostbite.

Considering 39F was the low last night where I live, I would have stayed indoors at -19C. No shots fired at all. :D

Congrats on the now obsolete CZ455, Frostbite. :cool:
I have an obsolete CZ452 Trainer and it works fine, too. :)
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Thanks. On a Saturday, I thought it was good weather to go to the range. Less people tend to go when it's cold and I don't like when it is too crowded, danger comes mostly from inexperienced range shooters who attend in greater numbers when it is +19°C, usually after ten o'clock in the morning. Our range opens at eight o'clock, so I try to get there a quarter to eight.

That being said, I had to play Range Officer (because he felt it was too cold to do his job and was inside the shack while the firing line was closed) just before I left, around a quarter past noon. I hate doing that even more than shopping for new clothes, which is an awful lot. So, I had to look very serious, I guess, when a new guy was near the table while the line was closed, handling his weapon. I calmly explained he had no business touching his firearm on the shooting table when others were at the targets (one of the very few rules over there; is it similar where you guys shoot?). Twice in a few seconds, because he tried to argue. The second time, I must have sounded a little impatient while walking towards him, his girlfriend enjoining him to leave the gun alone. I must say that I am not an aggressive person at all and that I am generally polite and well mannered; I almost always speak gently, but I have been described as massive by some people of frailer constitution. Anyway, they both came back to thank me for the explanation afterwards, mentioning it was their first time at the range. I will never say it enough: education is the basis of civilization.

When it is cold, it is important for me to wear some gloves (I wear my lightest leather gloves for shooting, they might be deerskin or something like that) because my fingers tend to stick a little to the metal of the trigger if I don't wear any and I really dislike that. Also, it feels less cold with gloves.

The Trainer would also have been my choice if I had had to order my CZ, but this one was already there waiting for me (at no monetary cost)!

Thinking about it, it was a good thing I did not have a scope on the rifle Saturday: I just hate it when my breath fogs the ocular, which happens fast, as you probably know, when it is 0°F or lower. I have to be careful even nose breathing when that cold or worst. Frost did form (lightly) on the rear of the action when at the range and on all the rifle when I got home. Had to wait for it to melt, wipe with dry cloth, and oil a little with another cloth afterwards, before I locked it in the safe. I don't want it to look like my P14 while I am alive.

It had also been a long time since I could say I saw the bullet flying, as I have mostly been shooting my .223 for the past year or so, except for one (or was it two?) outing with the .30-30. I don't see those flying! I don't remember ever noticing the bullet flying when I shot my Buckmark, scoped or not; I guess it must have something to do with the shooting position. I think the last time I remember noticing the bullet flying, I was a kid shooting grandpa's Cooey, which I have since inherited. My father then said I was imagining things. Memories :)
 
troy fairweather said:
i was thing of trying one of these, u can find them for $170.
https://gundigest.com/reviews/rifles-reviews/new-rimfire-escort-rimfire-rifle-a-company-first
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Sure looks good and has the nice features of a longer barrel and front fiber optic sight. The price is good too! Plus, the dovetail is standard. I will be waiting for your range report :)

At $100, the Talley 11 mm high mounts for my CZ make me wonder a little. Leupold I have seen for $85, but have to be back-ordered. I would sure like to test accuracy with a scope, but since I bought that rifle mostly to practice with iron sights and given its stock, better suited for iron sights in my opinion, I am not sure I need the best rings on it. The older 8x fixed Zeiss I was offered is parallax set for 100 meters from what I have found on the Internet; I will pass on that one. Amazon sells some rings for $13, they might go well with the $70 3-9x Buckner scope with parallax set at 50 yards I already have on hand. It is just for fun after all. On the other hand, because it is a quality rifle, I would be tempted to go with the Talley rings and maybe later buy a better scope. No hurry; the better ammo has been ordered, but it is not here yet, and I have a bunch of cheaper ammo I can shoot meanwhile.
 
ya it maybe my next gun. there maybe some things with the gun to go over but for half the price off the cz i think its worth trying out. i got to see if there are any videos on it.
 
CZ's are fantastic sporter weight guns.

For open sighted shooting in a field gun, I prefer to remove the factory rear notched sight and replace it with a J&P ghost ring. I have them for a 452 Trainer.

For benchshooting, a set of BRNO match sights are hard to beat, but very difficult to find. I have them on a 452 Ultra Lux. A good peep sight shooter can shoot 50 yard groups as tight as a high mag scope shooter can.
 
I used to think the same of open sights (for groups, not X) when the front sight is round (like on my BAR) and the target is also round; I might be changing my mind as my eyes got older with me. I will print square targets to match with the square front sight of the CZ to see if it makes any difference, but I am in doubt... I will see! ;)
 
Snap up a 455 while you can I guess. The new 457's are starting to hit the shelves. Over on rimfirecentral they are not getting rave reviews. Apparently the trigger is not as good. or at least they have not yet figured out how to make it good. (and by good I mean less than 1 lb.) The rest of the rifle looks good though. I like a shorter bolt throw and receiver. New safety I couldn't care less about.
 
greyling22 said:
Snap up a 455 while you can I guess. The new 457's are starting to hit the shelves. Over on rimfirecentral they are not getting rave reviews. Apparently the trigger is not as good. or at least they have not yet figured out how to make it good. (and by good I mean less than 1 lb.) The rest of the rifle looks good though. I like a shorter bolt throw and receiver. New safety I couldn't care less about.
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from what i saw i like the 457, them guys over there complain about everything what else do u think they got to do lol.
 
greyling22 said:
Snap up a 455 while you can I guess. The new 457's are starting to hit the shelves. Over on rimfirecentral they are not getting rave reviews. Apparently the trigger is not as good. or at least they have not yet figured out how to make it good. (and by good I mean less than 1 lb.) The rest of the rifle looks good though. I like a shorter bolt throw and receiver. New safety I couldn't care less about.
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I know a lot of those guys like fly triggers on their sporters, but that never made sense to me. Bench rest, sure. A sporter rifle, not so much.
 
well, I was excited to buy a 457, if only for the nitride treatment they are doing now. I like in a rust prone environment. Blued steel is not happy here.

I like the flyweight trigger on my 455. The biggest problem is that they don't offer the configuration I want: Threaded 16" non-bull barrel I'm not lugging around a bull barrel or a 25" on a 22. no sir. Same issue I have the with ruger precision bolt gun 22, too blasted heavy.
 
Hasaf said:
I also got one this christmas. I put a Leupold 4x rimfire scope on it. The bad part is that I haven't had time to get out and shoot it yet.
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I had a 4x Leupold on mine. I thought that was plenty until I put a 3x9 on it. You need more magnification to shoot flies at 50 or gongs at 220. A good mildot scope would work better but I don't have one. Shooting steel at 220 with 22 LR is just showing off anyway.:D
 
red rick said:
Nice report and rifle . Find the ammo that rifle likes and your groups will get much smaller . My 10/22 and 60 both like Wolf Match or Wolf Target . I have a 452 American that I bought when I heard they were going to discontinue making them , that I haven't scoped or shot yet . I also would like a CZ designed for open sights .
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I have a CZ 452 I use for turkey shoots. At 25 yards it is a one hole shooter or touching.
 
I need to get mine scoped soon , its been sitting in the safe for about 5 years now . I take it out every now and then to wipe it down . It is a beauty .
 
red rick said:
Nice report and rifle . Find the ammo that rifle likes and your groups will get much smaller . My 10/22 and 60 both like Wolf Match or Wolf Target . I have a 452 American that I bought when I heard they were going to discontinue making them , that I haven't scoped or shot yet . I also would like a CZ designed for open sights .
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The best one for open sights would be the Super Lux with the 28 in barrel.
 
image.jpeg image.jpeg image.jpeg Frostbite...I forgot I had this way back, it's a picatiny rail for the 452. Here it's mounted on my FS, for me shouldering it it's comfortable...between a jaw n cheek weld. But pretty sure you could get lower with rings, but for sure front post will be visible through scope.
 
Is clearance of the scope by the bolt handle ample or just barely sufficient? Saw a tempting 6-18x 50 mm AO scope online, thinking about high rings... Damn you guys for talking about 200 yards with a .22 LR. I am not that shooter yet! Range trip tomorrow with new targets, will see what I get. Forecast is -22C, 7 mph wind, clear sky. The range should not be overly crowded :)
 
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