DA .22LR Revolver Recommendations?

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Toying with the idea of purchasing a .22LR revolver sooner rather than later. I think I'd like an older S&W, but I'm open to all suggestions. Kind of looking for the Marlin 39 of revolvers (classic, quality, and accurate, though I'd sacrifice classic for reduced price).

I'm also a little confused with all the various S&W models, variations, years/owners, pre-model vs model, etc. I realize this could get a little complex, but is there a website with a basic outline? Is the S&W K22 the same thing as the K17; is this the premier .22 revolver? Aren't there some older, cheaper kit guns; how do these compare?

I'm also open to something from H&R, Taurus, Colt, Charter, Ruger, Rossi, etc. if they are quality and accurate. I no longer have much patience for guns that don't work or make it difficult to shoot decent groups. I'd prefer a 4'' blued gun, but I'm definitely willing to go with something else.

Also, how does the 617 compare to the older S&W guns? They have MIM parts, aren't hand-fitted, and don't have that deep blue, correct?
 
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My son has the S&Wmodel 34 kitgun I passed on to him after we tried to wear it out. I got it in the late 80's. It came from the factory with a glitch which I had to send it back twice to get fixed. I guess to keep me happy after the second time they sent it to the performance center to slick it up. It became a pure delight. Some years ago I bought a S&W Airlight 317 kitgun. I seem to like the superlight 317 better.
I once spent a day in a factory watching truck transmission gears being made using MIM. Because of that experience I have decided those that speak evil of MIM parts should not drive pickups. Probably because of my long and happy experience with the 34, I came to love J frame Smiths. But I also know that you might get one with a glitch as with any other gun. I sorta picked up a few more J's and they have been wonderful and lock or not, pin barrel or not I like them.
 
I'm not the most experienced rimfire shooter but my two favorites are the S&W 34-1 kit gun and the newer Ruger SP101 both with a 4" barrel. I also have a few others, S&W model 17 and 18, Colt Diamondback and Police Positive Target. The Ruger may need the Wolff Springs.
 
The Model 34 I bought for my girlfriend a few years back makes for a great DA/SA .22 revolver. Found it LNIB for what I thought was a very good price (it also helped that an old buddy of mine had set it aside for me), and added a Hogue Monogrip for a more comfortable and ergonomic grip for it.

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Is the S&W K22 the same thing as the K17; is this the premier .22 revolver?

Probably what you are seeing is the early 22 LR K frame S&W revolvers before they started using model number designations were called K22. Also, there were K32 (32 caliber) and K38 (38 caliber) K frames. They different names such as Combat Masterpiece and the like that indicated some of the features the revolver had. Folks frequently refer to these guns as "Pre-Models" as they were manufactured before S&W transitioned to the model number designations.

After S&W switched to the model designations in the 1950s, the 22 LR K frame revolvers became the Model 17 and Model 18. The Model 17's had 6" barrels and the Model 18's had 4" barrels but other barrel lengths can be found in both models. There are subtle other differences between the models as well.

When S&W got into the stainless gun business, most stainless model numbers begin with a "6". Frequently, with the three digit model numbers, the second two numbers refer back to the early model numbers. So, the Model 617 is a stainless version of the older Model 17.

As an aside, things can get confusing with S&W's model numbers. For example, the Model 317 is a J-frame revolver.

The Model 17 and Model 18 revolvers are excellent 22 LR revolvers as are the pre-model versions. Prices on the Model 17 and Model 18 revolvers are probably more attractive than the pre-model ones.

I do not have a Model 617 but do have other currently manufactured S&W revolvers. The new ones may not be fit and finished quite as elegantly as the older guns but they shoot just as well. Some folks have a fit concerning the MIM parts and the safety lock though. A Model 617 is on my "To Buy" list.
 
The S&W Model 17 and Model 18 are considered by many as the "best" DA 22 revolver. The Colt Diamondback and Officers Model Match are good ones but expensive these days. Most of the Colts are very good.

I have been hoping for Ruger to make the LCR 22 in a 3" (X version with sights). That would make a fun field gun. The older Model 34's are very good as are the M63"s.
 
My first handgun was a Model 17 with a six inch barrel. The S&W revolvers have very good SA triggers and most of my shooting was in SA mode. It is a large revolver for a .22 which can be good or bad depending on its intended use. .22 LR ammo needs a good smack for reliable ignition so .22 revolvers tend to have heavy DA pulls. If I were starting from scratch I would also look at the Ruger Single Ten. My Model 17 is a classic and I started shooting in the 70s when the wheelgun was king, but these days I am much more likely to shoot a .22 semi auto than the Model 17.


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If you want "quality", I would not look beyond Colt and Smith & Wesson for a DA 22 revolver. Ruger would be the next choice if price is a controlling factor. Taurus 22's have a long history of problems and have a very heavy trigger. Rossi, H&R, Charter Arms are cheaper, but certainly a lesser grade product.

The S&W M63 is a nice handling 22 revolver and has a smaller frame than the M17/617. Many feel the smaller frame is better for a 22.

The Ruger Single 10 is a nice revolver. Well made. I personally prefer DA 22 revolvers as their dominant use is plinking and often shooting up a lot of ammo and the loading and unloading on SA's is slow with the tiny 22LR shells.

The Ruger SP-101 is fair. Heavy trigger. The old version has a really heavy trigger to the point that I wouldn't even consider buying one. The GP-100 in 22 is better, but still a bit on heavy side (trigger) and not as finely made as the Colt and S&W DA's.
 
The first handgun I ever shot was a K22. I actually got to shoot it again for the 1st time in many, many years last month. I always loved that K22, but just realized it's my all time favorite 22 and only second to my Python as far as wheelies go. Get one!

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I love my old taurus it is a 4in blued model 94 and I couldn't be happier with it

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I'm a Smith & Wesson guy, so I'll go along with the Model 17 or 18 recommendation. Not much I can add to what the others have said.

(What's not to like?)

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But they are sort of "spendy" shall we say. Worth it IMHO...but spendy.

If you can find a Dan Wesson 22, they're pretty close. Really close. But they are bigger and heavier than a Smith & Wesson. I'm not sure what they're bringing these days, but in the past they were about half...maybe a little more than half what a Smith & Wesson would cost.

Another one if you can find one you might want to think about is the High Standard Sentinel. They can be found in various "R" configurations, differing only in minor details. They're nine shooters, about the size of a S&W K-frame, but a lot lighter with their aluminum frames. Their sights are windage adjustable. Double action trigger pull is nothing to write home about, but the S/A is usually pretty good. They make really great woods bumming guns.

My wife picked this one up last week cheap. She thought it was "cute." I'd have liked it better if it had been a more conventional color, and if it had a 4" barrel, but she likes it.

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When you start looking at the older classic S&W guns like the Model 17 revolvers or the Colt Diamondback you are looking at extremely well made and fitted handguns. That carries a premium price tag. One of my regrets was a few years ago a gent had a minty Diamondback like new in the box and wanted a grand for the gun. Rather than buy it I grabbed a nice S&W Pre Model 27 for $600. While I did well on the gun I got I regret not getting the Diamondback. That gun was sweet! I do have a pair of Model 17 revolvers which I really enjoy shooting.

Lesser in price are the new Ruger guns like the SP 101 which is an excellent revolver for the buck. I would try and pick up a few and see what feels good to you.

Ron
 
Another vote for the Smith & Wesson Model 18. Find one that has been cared for, grin and bear the cost. You will not regret it.
 
Howdy

I will add to the excellent information you have already gotten from cfullgraf.

With Smith and Wesson, the K frame was the medium sized frame originally developed in 1899 for the 38 Special Military and Police Hand Ejector revolvers. In the 1930s and 1940s S&W developed three complimentary target revolvers built on the same frame for 22 Long Rifle, 32 S&W Long, and 38 Special ammunition. These became known as the K-22, the K-32, and the K-38 Models. These three models all featured adjustable rear sights, a Patridge front sight, and they most commonly had six inch barrels. These were the premier target revolvers of their day.

The K-22 was the earliest of the three, first introduced in 1931 as the K-22 Outdoorsman (K-22 1st Model). This one shipped in 1935. Notice the correct service grips with silver medallions, the lack of a rib on top of the barrel, and the tiny adjusting screw on the rear sight. There is one screw on either side of the rear sight. To adjust the rear sight you loosen the screw on one side, then turn the screw on the opposite side to push the rear sight where you want it, then snug up the first screw to keep the sight in position. And you need a tiny screw driver to do this. The K-22 Outdoorsman was very popular, it was made from 1931 until 1940 and 19,500 of them were made.

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In 1941 S&W introduced the K-22 Masterpiece (Prewar, K-22 2nd Model). The main difference between the K-22 Masterpiece and the K-22 Outdoorsman was the Masterpiece incorporated the micrometer click rear sight that S&W still uses today. This model also had a short throw hammer in it. The K-22 Masterpiece was only made from 1940 until 1941, and only 1067 of them were made.


In 1946 S&W reintroduced the K-22 (Postwar, 3rd Model K-22). This one shipped in 1950. This one has a narrow serrated rib on the top of the barrel and the barrel has a slight taper. Later ones had a full width rib and the barrel had no taper. Like the 2nd Model it also has the modern micrometer click rear sight. The hammer is a wide target hammer, and although it is difficult to see in this photo, this model has an adjustable trigger stop. The 3rd Model had the modern internal hammer block. This one wears Magna grips. Smith and Wesson collectors will tell you that this model is the only one that can be properly called the 'Pre-Model 17'.

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In 1957 Smith and Wesson changed over to a model number system. The K-22 then became the Model 17. I bought this Model 17-3 brand new in 1975. By this time, the old five screw frames had been discontinued, replaced by the three screw frames. Notice the lack of a sideplate screw up near the hammer. This Model 17 has the wide serrated barrel rib and the barrel is straight with no taper. The front sight is forged as part of the barrel, rather than being a separate sight pinned to the barrel.

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This is a Model 617-6. It was made in 2003. Like most S&W model numbers that begin with 6 it is made of Stainless Steel. It is a ten shot revolver. I actually have no objection to the lock, you can see the key hole just above the thumb piece, and I don't even object to the MIM parts too much. But I do dislike the full lug under barrel, and the factory grips are cheap and hideous.

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Of course, I favor the old Smiths. Of all the 22 revolvers on this page, this well worn K-22 Outdoorsman with its incorrect Magna grips, has the best trigger and is the most accurate of the bunch. It shipped in 1932. Surprisingly, it only cost me $500 a few years ago, a lot less than you will pay for a new 617. The old ones are still out there, but you may have to keep a sharp eye out to find a bargain like this one.

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There are of course smaller 22 Rimfire revolvers that S&W makes. The first of the side swing cylinder 22s was the tiny M frame 22 Hand Ejector, usually referred to as the Ladysmith. This little seven shot double action revolver was only chambered for 22 Long, not 22 Long Rifle. There were three different versions made from 1902 until 1921. This 3rd Model Ladysmith shipped in 1910. It is shown with a J frame Model 36 to illustrate how small it is.

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Smith and Wesson developed the I frame in 1896 as a platform for six shot 32 caliber revolvers. It was smaller than the six shot K frame which came about in 1899. Other than the tiny Ladysmith, and the old Tip Up Model One, S&W had not made any 22 Rimfire revolvers at this point. Around 1911 San Francisco dealer Philip Bekeart contracted with S&W to build 22 Rimfire Target revolvers on the I frame. These became known as the 22/32 Hand Ejectors, 22/32 Bekeart Model, or 22/32 Heavy Frame Target revolvers.

The oversized grips on this 22/32 Hand Ejector are typical of the Bekeart Model.

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But the term Heavy Frame can be deceiving with these revolvers. Although they were larger than the Ladysmith, they were smaller than the K-22 which was the first 'full sized' 22 target revolver that S&W made.

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These I frame 22 Rimfire revolvers eventually led to the 22/32 Kit Guns. Originally built on the I frame with four inch barrels, The Kit Guns got their name because they were the ideal size to throw into a tackle kit and take along on camping or fishing trips.

This J frame Model 63 22/32 Stainless Kit Gun was made in 1980 or 1981.

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I have a model 34 S&W I bought a few years ago for $250 OTD. It didn't have the original grips so I put a Houge rubber grip on it. Mine is an old flat latch made around 1960 or so I think. It is really tight and doesn't seem to have been shot much.

I would also endorse the ruger single six. Excellent guns for just fun shooting. And some who say they would only get a double action do most of their shooting single action. So I don't think a single action gun hurts a thing.
 
Driftwood Johnson

Thanks for all of the great historical information on S&W .22 revolvers and for the representative photos too.

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I remember seeing those "colored" High Standard Sentinels when I was a kid. I think they came in turquoise and gold colors too. Don't know how accurate they were but they sure were something to look at.
 
Outstanding post, Driftwood Johnson. Thank you for taking the time.

A question, if you don't mind: How would you compare the Model 63 and the 17 / 18 for casual shooting fun?
 
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I have a couple K frames (617 and K22) and a Dan Wesson Model 22. Can't really go wrong with any of them.
 
Not really a recommendation as much as relaying information.

I have a Taurus 670(?) 7 shot revolver, 6 inch barrel full underlug and it is a pure shooting machine!!

A surprisingly good trigger.................it will never be a S&W K22 but it wasn't $600 either
 
My favorite is my Colt Diamondback .22 that I've owned for over 30 years. I put a Metalife hard chrome finish on it. However, the Colts are now ridiculously priced and I wouldn't buy one at today's prices. Heck, mine was about $235 used, if I remember correctly.
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I recently picked up this nickel 999 Sportsman. Those 9 shot breaktop revolvers are a hoot to shoot!

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I owned this model 18, but sold it because I liked my Colt better:

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My Dad has a S&W model 17 he bought new in 63-ish. I grew up comparing my Diamondback to his gun. I think they are equally nice, in their own rights.

Here is my Mom's model 63 Smith with my revolvers (the 63 is very nice, and portable):

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If I was to buy a new gun today, the S&W 617 Mountain Gun would probably be my choice. About $650-$700, essentially it's a 10 shot stainless model 18.
 
Biblethumpncop

I'm another big fan of Ron Mahovsky's Metalife hard chrome finish. Like the way it looks on your Colt Diamondback.
 
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