Dad saves Daughter, shoots assailants holding her as a human shield

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Wow. I hate to think about how that would've unfolded had the parents not been armed.

And every mothers day from that day forward I'd give my mom shooting lessons and a few boxes of ammo as a gift.
 
dad was using a shotgun according to yahoo news. mom a handgun, and mom did get non fatal hit on the one that lived to be arrested.
 
Good for him (them) for being armed citizens. It would take a very confident shooter to take a shot at a bad guy holding his daughter as a human shield. Then again im picturing the movies where only the bad guys head is visable behind the human shield, which probably wasnt so. Either way, well done. Thanks for sharing.
 
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I thought the same thing! Dad was a pretty young dad. But a pretty good shot with a cool head under pressure it would seem. I did notice that one of the dirtbags was implicated in another murder in 2010. I'm not normally bloodthirsty, and I don't relish the idea of anyone being killed, but it sounds like the father did the world a favor.
 
Yo Mama said:
Can't find the guns used by the Parents, but I'm really interested.
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Why would it matter? You really think the type/brand of gun had anything to do with the shot being successful, like the father wouldn't have taken the shot if it was another brand?
 
Why would it matter? You really think the type/brand of gun had anything to do with the shot being successful, like the father wouldn't have taken the shot if it was another brand?
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Proper reporting would have included the relevant details such as ammunution used and make/model of the guns used. Some people do want to know this since they are compiling lists of the results of events such as these.
 
Glad the family is ok.

Sounds like some very good shooting (on the family's part.)

Wonder how (if any) different it would be if the daughter had a CCW?

I would like to know mostly what ammo was used followed by what type of firearms, but I'm a bit of a ammo junkie. :uhoh:
 
Why would it matter? You really think the type/brand of gun had anything to do with the shot being successful, like the father wouldn't have taken the shot if it was another brand?
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Because when the good guy uses a guy it's never reported. We sit here and discuss the best weapons to use for home defense, well this family used firearms successfully in home defense and I'm interested.
 
Hometeached1 said:
Glad the family is ok.

Sounds like some very good shooting (on the family's part.)

Wonder how (if any) different it would be if the daughter had a CCW?
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She is too young. She's only 17.
 
Very good job for the parents! However, apparently some shots went stray, going through the window of a neighbor's house. http://fox2now.com/2014/06/10/exclu...ho-allegedly-put-a-gun-to-his-daughters-head/

dad was using a shotgun according to yahoo news. mom a handgun, and mom did get non fatal hit on the one that lived to be arrested.
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Interesting, Fox doesn't report what gun was used and specifically noted that the mother did not hit either suspect.

The girl`s father saw the suspects walking his daughter toward the home. That`s when police say the teen`s father, a 34 year old man, got his gun and fired several shots at the suspects, hitting both of them. The girl`s mother, also 34, got another gun and fired a round as well, not hitting either suspect.
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http://fox2now.com/2014/06/10/one-person-dead-another-at-the-hospital/

However, if the father did have a shotgun, you have to wonder from where he retrieved it as he doesn't live in the home of the mother and the daughter.
http://fox2now.com/2014/06/10/exclu...ho-allegedly-put-a-gun-to-his-daughters-head/

Can you imagine the damage to the daughter's hearing being on the business end of a 12-gauge going off...
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Can you imagine the damage to the daughter's hearing if she was shot in the head by her assailant? I am sure the gunfire was loud for all the participants, especially those in a confined space.

Proper reporting would have included the relevant details such as ammunution used and make/model of the guns used. Some people do want to know this since they are compiling lists of the results of events such as these.
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Some people might like to know, but proper reporting doesn't necessary mean catering to special interest groups, LOL, and assuming that the information has even been released by the police yet.

Even if released, that information isn't necessarily what IS the story and so isn't necessary for the story. If you are doing research, then you may have to actually do your own research and get the information from the cops yourself.
 
Yo Mama said:
Because when the good guy uses a guy it's never reported. We sit here and discuss the best weapons to use for home defense, well this family used firearms successfully in home defense and I'm interested.
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Actually, I don't ever discuss what's the "best", because that only leads to a false sense of security. What is "best" is whatever one specific individual chooses to arm himself/herself and then makes the effort to practice & train with.

IF the press had announced that it happened to be "XYZ" gun, that would set-off a run for that gun by people who mistakenly believe it would somehow give them an advantage during a defense situation.

People take the easy way out all the time. Unfortunately, as in this posting, some people are already indicating interest in what guns and ammo were used.

It isn't the gun, it is the determined person(s) behind the gun.

How come nobody has ever posted "I wonder how much he trained every month?"
 
This reads like they were shot coming through the door... perps couldn't really use her as a shield because they never got a chance to put her between them and the gun. They thought they were going to enter the house unexpected and take control of the situation. The parents prepared and executed an ambush knowing that the perps were coming through the door with their daughter. Good for them. It's just too bad the parents weren't able to kill both perps. Yes, I wrote that.
 
It is interesting to note that the street where this happened is in South City, in an area near the intersection of Morgonford and Gravois. This isn't an area of St. Louis where things like this normally happen. :scrutiny: :confused:
 
Goes to show that you should never expect crime to be just "the other guy's problem".
 
tnxdshooter said:
I read where they are charging the parents in this case with like murder or something.
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Are you sure you didn't read that the surviving accomplice is being charged with criminal homicide? State law can hold criminals liable for all deaths caused during the commission of a crime, including the deaths any criminals taking part in the crime. Because BG #1 got killed, BG#2 is being charged with murder.
 
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Actually, I don't ever discuss what's the "best", because that only leads to a false sense of security...
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While I agree training is very important, I disagree that discussing what the best tool for the job is a false sense of security. The firearm is is a tool. Discussing what tool is best for the job is part of training as is discussing their strengths and weaknesses.

It would be like telling an aviation sheetmetal mechanic it is no good to discuss what riviting tool is best for the job at hand- rivit gun, ball pein hammer, bucking bar or rivit squeeze and that it is no good to discuss what rivit gun, hammer, bucking bar or squeeze works best because it will lead to a false sense of security.

What tool to use under what circumstances and what tools can be adapted to different situations is very important to know. Once the job is done, it's natural to want to know what tools & techniques the mechanic used & why and to assume that since the job was well done, the mechanic had the right training
 
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