Dangit... 2nd place again!

[1KPerDay]

:banghead:

Open division, local informal/non sanctioned handgun match. All steel. Lots of fun. Placed 2nd of 9 in Open, and 2nd of 60 overall. S&W CORE 9L. Keep getting beat by a long-time Open shooter with a race holster and $4K Limcat. Think a race holster would cut 12 seconds off my time over 8 stages?

Probably not. I should probably spend the money on liposuction and/or a gym membership.

 

[short barrel]

2nd place out of 60? That is good shooting. I'd be plenty happy with that.

 

[1KPerDay]

Thanks. Truthfully I'm not a hardcore competitor. But it is a lot of fun.

 

[Walkalong]

Congrats. I would have probably been the # 60 guy.

 

[1KPerDay]

I doubt that.

 

[Walkalong]

I can't see open sights well enough to shoot fast anymore. It sucks, but it is what it is. I can still do OK with a red dot.

 

[1KPerDay]

That's what I was shooting...

 

[JohnKSa]

Think a race holster would cut 12 seconds off my time over 8 stages?

Not unless it cuts 1.5 seconds off the average time from the timer to your first shot.

But if it cuts half a second off your average draw time then you only need to find a way to make up another second on each stage to reach your goal. How many reloads in a typical stage?

 

[fallout mike]

If you ain't first, you're last.

 

[Walkalong]

I would disagree with that statement. 2nd is very impressive and takes a lot of skill and work.

 

[fallout mike]

Haha, Walkalong, that's a quote from Will Ferrell (Ricky Bobby) in the movie Talledega Nights.

 

[ATLDave]

Did the first-place shooter have a comp on his gun?

 

[Walkalong]

Walkalong, that's a quote

Agh, never saw it.

 

[tuj]

Congrats!!!! I'm proud of my second place in small bore USBR benchrest in 2012 Texas state regional match, in my first year of competition.

 

[waktasz]

I sold my race holster and am back to kydex in a good drop/offset mount (Boss mount). I really started working on my draw more this year and I am more confident really attacking the gun with it secure in a kydex holster. I'm doing practice draws in the 70s (with a couple of rare high .60s) and draws in matches in the low .8s.

Here's a .67 I got on video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIK4-kTqdls

 

[1KPerDay]

That's frickin impressive.

 

[waktasz]

Thanks. I'm only about a year away from having a 1.25 second draw from a race holster. I made some changes to my technique and just put in my practice time. If you put in the work it will come to you.

 

[1KPerDay]

Do you start surrender or hands at sides?

 

[waktasz]

That was hands at sides. I'm starting to spend a lot of time with surrender starts now. Those have never been good for me, but we can change that.

 

[1KPerDay]

What are the changes you made to your technique, if you don't mind?

 

[waktasz]

Changed to a scoop type draw. This pretty much eliminated any bad grip issues I would get with a draw where I come down on top of the gun and would sometimes get a handfull of beavertail instead. Also focused on getting my weak hand over to the gun faster and building the grip faster (although this video shows I could still be working on that part)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7ZZmtoPK_M&feature=youtu.be

 

[1KPerDay]

thanks!

 

[g.willikers]

If you watch some of the really swift folks, the first round is on target before the gun actually reaches the fully extended position.
By then the second round has been fired, too.
Probably why they can draw and get two rounds off in well under a second.

 

[Walkalong]

Yep, that's [strike]a wee bit[/strike], [strike]somewhat[/strike], [strike]a good bit[/strike], one hell of a lot faster than I am.

Must take a lot of practice, and skill. Impressive.

 

[g.willikers]

Heck, except for a handful of real sharp shooters, no one can draw and shoot two rounds in under a second.
And actually hit what they intended.
But, in the real world, and even the competition world, is it really all that important?
Other than for a very few types of matches, there's lots of things to practice that would make for skill improvements.
But it is fun, non the less.