Definition please (what's a bullpup?)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullpup
Personal preference? I don't like them. My experience is limited to the Steyr AUG (thoughtfully provided by the Irish, nice folks) and the L85 (the British punishing me for being American, I suppose) but the basic design I don't like. The biggest issue for me was mag changes, it's not very intuitive feeling. I know that sounds vague, but I prefer weapons in which I can change a magazine without undue shifting of my body and which the action feels natural. The muzzle being so close and receiver next to your skull are things that made me feel uncomfy. I didn't like the weight distribution. The AUG was way too heavy in the rear end, not sure why but it irked me.
More important, the receiver of the rifle is right beside the shooter's head; this "feature" tends to bother folks who have seen pictures of "blown up" rifles where the receiver let go. Not to mention the end of the barrel being very close to the left ear and face, a situation calling for top quality ear and eye protection.
All in all, a design that crops up from time to time, usually touted in the gunzines as something new and exciting and put together by someone with more money than (IMHO) common sense.
Jim
All in all, a design that crops up from time to time, usually touted in the gunzines as something new and exciting and put together by someone with more money than (IMHO) common sense.
Jim
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there nice for what they are but my main concern is the trigger are alittle sloppy
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i'm extremely fond of bullpups. my PS90 is a stellar rifle. absolutely outstanding. ergonomics are very good. you do have to come off of the gun to do a mag change, but it's not nearly as annoying as the AUG, and you get a 50 rnd magazine, given that it's not a battle-rifle, it's not likely you'll ever NEED to.
many of the 50bmg single-shot and bolt-action guns are bullpup. e.g. barrett's m82a2
there are some good 22lr rifles that are bullpup. e.g. walther G22
the primary advantage is that it's a far more compact package than you'll ever get with a traditional configuration, and yet, you can still have a rifle-length barrel instead of a carbine-length or 'shorty'
many of the 50bmg single-shot and bolt-action guns are bullpup. e.g. barrett's m82a2
there are some good 22lr rifles that are bullpup. e.g. walther G22
the primary advantage is that it's a far more compact package than you'll ever get with a traditional configuration, and yet, you can still have a rifle-length barrel instead of a carbine-length or 'shorty'
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Being a lefty I imagine I would get an ear full of hot brass.
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Most bullpup service rifles have a "left handed configuration". The L85 is excluded, I believe, because the British Army still uses the outmoded technique of forcing left-handed, left-eye-dominant soldiers to shoot right handed (again, from what I've read).
The AUG and FAMAS have reversible bolts/ejection. The Russians played around with bullpups that ejected from the right, but at a forward angle, clearing the lefty shooter's head.
And the new FN-2000 ejects from the front.
The AUG and FAMAS have reversible bolts/ejection. The Russians played around with bullpups that ejected from the right, but at a forward angle, clearing the lefty shooter's head.
And the new FN-2000 ejects from the front.
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I really like the idea of a bullpup ... a short compact rifle with a full length barrel for greater accuracy and power.
However until someone develops a better way to do the trigger mechanism you still end up pulling a trigger moving a bunch of real long rods and such so I can't imagine you can get a crisp, short, light trigger like the JP trigger in my AR.
I still wonder if an electronic trigger would work well (although I wouldn't want to depend on one for my life).
However until someone develops a better way to do the trigger mechanism you still end up pulling a trigger moving a bunch of real long rods and such so I can't imagine you can get a crisp, short, light trigger like the JP trigger in my AR.
I still wonder if an electronic trigger would work well (although I wouldn't want to depend on one for my life).
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I really, really, really want one of these:
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The main advantages of the bullpup layout apply to military rifles, in which a target-type trigger is not even wanted, let alone needed.
I understand that British Army teams using the SA80 have commonly beaten M-16-equipped US Army teams in shooting contests, so it's obviously not much of a problem.
Tony Williams: Military gun and ammunition website and discussion forum
You may not want a target trigger but you need a usable trigger. I had a Aug and the damn trigger was 10 pounds or so that makes hitting fast and accurately problemantic. A good military rifle trigger should be around 4 pounds no more no less.
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