Did they stop producing Aguila Super Colibri?

[45223]

I haven't seen any in a long time... It used to be so common, Academy would have that when they wouldn't have any other type of .22lr ammo. Now I can't find it anywhere, not even high priced websites or auction sites. What gives? They have regular colibri rounds but never the Supers...

Anyone have any ides if they discontinued them and why?
Those are the only rounds silent enough for me to hunt the damned tree rats in my backyard. I wouldn't trust the standard colibri to make clean kills. Or has anyone been successful with that?

If I ever see them again I'm gonna buy as much as I can. Anyone know any alternative?
CCI quiets are overkill, and still make noise. CB shorts make the same amount of noise as CCI Quiet... Colibri are perfect in noise but I don't think they're powerful enough to take out big squirrels. I also noticed they're very inaccurate out of my rifle and have very limited range. Why doesn't anyone else make powderless .22 rounds?

 

[cjwils]

You said Colibri are "very inaccurate out of my rifle and have very limited range." I have seen some information about the Colibri that says you should not use them in a rifle, because they are so low powered that they might not clear the barrel on a rifle. If they do clear your barrel, they might have so little velocity remaining that you get poor results. I have used Colibri successfullly in revolvers. Back the main question, I am not aware of where you can get Super Colibri. I have bought them in the past from MidWay, but that company does not have them listed on their web site now.

 

[chicharrones]

Well, if Aguila stops selling the Colibri or Super Colibri ammo, it's possibly time for a good .22 pellet rifle.

I still have several boxes of both, but I prefer a .22 pellet rifle over any of the Colibris. I have to admit, I've never tried either Colibri cartridge out of a rifle.

 

[FROGO207]

I bet Aguila is making regular .22 ammo nonstop. The specialty stuff will suffer until demand for the common stuff dries up.

 

[45223]

I have seen some information about the Colibri that says you should not use them in a rifle, because they are so low powered that they might not clear the barrel on a rifle.

They've always cleared however you're right about the weak velocity. Super colibris have no issues.

 

[45223]

I bet Aguila is making regular .22 ammo nonstop. The specialty stuff will suffer until demand for the common stuff dries up.

They're making specialty everything else. Why make regular colibris but not super colibri? Not to mention, the ammo shortage was wayyyy worse years ago when these things were common as apple pie. When walmart starts to have regular stocks of more than one type of .22lr you know we're seeing the end of the shortage.

 

[22-rimfire]

When walmart starts to have regular stocks of more than one type of .22lr you know we're seeing the end of the shortage.

That be true. Never shot the Super Colibri as I was never that concerned about noise and accuracy is important to me. I generally just go standard velocity from a long barreled rifle if I want "quiet".

 

[FROGO207]

Texas Armament &Technology Is the sole importer for the US presently. If you want to really find out why there is none an email to them asking will satisfy your curiosity I am sure.

 

[KansasSasquatch]

According to MidwayUSA it is indeed discontinued. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/85...id-point-box-of-500-10-boxes-of-50?cm_vc=S014 But Aguila's website still lists it. I'd defiinitely do as Frog suggested and contact TX-AT and see what they say. https://www.tx-at.com/contact-us/

 

[45223]

Hmm yeah good idea I think I'll do that. I'll let ya know what they say. I'm hoping it's just temporary. Otherwise I guess I should just get a good pellet gun... Speaking of that, do they make any .22 cal pellet pistols that shoot at ~900 to ~1000 fps? Something similar to the Benjamin Marauder PCP air pistol/rifle? I like how you can make it a pistol or a rifle without the ATF, FBI, and state police wanting to have all wanting to have a little word with you. That's on top of technically the town has an ordinance about not firing within city limits... even if there is about a mile of woods behind your house. Also apparently you can put silencers on airguns no problem. Does anyone make a silencer for it? Idk if I would really need one though. It has a velocity of 700 fps... Idk if that's enough for squirrels at ranges of less than 30 yards typically.

Of course I just did a google search as I'm typing this and found out the Colibri velocity is 350 fps and the Super Colibri is around 500 fps. Headshots on squirrels put them down instantly with the supers. Vital organ shots killed pretty fast, few seconds or so them after a few backflip jumps/spasms. So never mind, 700 fps should do plenty great for those damned tree rats. Probably a better choice, except the projectile grain I think is a little smaller. Still should be able to make clean kills. I'm leaving it there just in case anyone else has any opinions on air rifles.

 

[MechAg94]

I think it didn't sell very well myself. There were a number of places to had it, but it languished on the shelves for months when regular 22 sold out quick. It isn't something most people shoot a lot of.

CCI makes Quiet-22. It is under powered at about 700 feet per second. Very quiet out of a rifle. Still fairly loud from a pistol. It will not cycle a semi-auto. Worked well out of my Marlin 39A. I thought I saw it at Academy when I was last there.

 

[RecoilRob]

I have both Marauder rifle and pistol...both in .22. The rifle is much more powerful than the pistol as delivered...but the pistol can be hotted up quite a bit by enlarging the transfer port a bit which can get 14.3 grain pellets to around mid 800's which is as fast as you want to shoot them anyhow and retain decent accuracy. The rifle uses a much heavier pellet, up to 25.4 grains at about the same mid-high 800's and hits hard enough to kill groundhogs no problem at 30 yards. Actually...I've taken quite a few hogs with the pistol out in the yard and they just don't move after being drilled in the head....but you must be careful of your shot placement on such a large animal or they'll take off as expected.

Noise is another matter entirely. The rifle...so long as you keep a heavy enough projectile below the trans-sonic velocity is totally silent with the factory shroud and baffles. Firing it you hear a light 'ping' through your cheek of the hammer striking the valve...but standing beside the muzzle it is silent. Nice! The pistol is WAY louder being as the stripper/baffle/shroud it uses is much shorter so it lets a bit of 'whack' get out...though it would take a very sensitive neighbor to recognize that someone just launched a projectile.

You CAN get aftermarket LDC's..(Lead Dust Collectors) and it's best to refer to them as such because of the Draconian Laws regarding Silencers in this Country. Even if you intend to only mount such a thing to the airgun...if it CAN be mounted to any firearm, and especially if you posess such a firearm you could be in for some problems with overzealous BATFE types. If you do go looking for a muzzle device...please just don't use the 'S' word and it'll be OK. The various airgun forums pretty much won't even talk to someone who refers to 'S' devices and even don't like to go down the 'LDC' route just because of problems that have arisen in the past.

The best solution is to get a factory shrouded rifle straight away which totally eliminates any problems with noise while remaining completely compliant with any and all Laws. Just be careful how you use one as the projectile striking the target will still make quite a 'thump' or 'whack' depending on what you hit and it might be enough to give away your clandestine shooting. But for sure...either Marauder in .22 or larger will mean total elimination of the tree rats. Both are very accurate...with the rifle again getting the nod as to being the more accurate. My rifle will shoot about a quarter size group at 50 yds on a still day if you do your part. The pistol (with carbine stock...very handy) about half that far for the same group which I think is more because of the red-dot on it than any intrinsic accuracy potential it might have. The rifle wears a big x16 power scope so it's very precise...heavy though. The PCP airguns are really nice to shoot...no special techniques needed like the springers require for good accuracy and pumping with the hand pump not a big deal so long as you don't plan to shoot hundreds of shots in a short period of time. Good luck.

 

[khari]

I too have wondered why I can't find it and now that it's gone I was forced to consider an alternative. It never occurred to me that I already have one; a Gamo Hunter Extreme in .25 cal. To Chicharrones' point, I just looked it up and the .25 pellet weighs more and travels at a faster velocity than does the Super Colibri, and I can use it in a rifle.

45223, You might consider a large (> .177) pellet rifle. They can be very accurate and effective.

 

[chicharrones]

The PCP airguns are really nice to shoot...no special techniques needed like the springers require for good accuracy and pumping with the hand pump not a big deal so long as you don't plan to shoot hundreds of shots in a short period of time. Good luck.

Excellent point.

My gas piston (springer) .22 pellet rifle is accurate to 25 yards or so if I support it the same for every shot. My CO2 .22 pellet rifle is much easier to shoot from any support or hold as it acts more like a PCP or pump up air rifle when the trigger is pulled.

I would have gotten onto the PCP airgun wagon, but my airgun shooting woods became a new neighborhood a couple years ago.

 

[chicharrones]

Of course I just did a google search as I'm typing this and found out the Colibri velocity is 350 fps and the Super Colibri is around 500 fps. Headshots on squirrels put them down instantly with the supers. Vital organ shots killed pretty fast, few seconds or so them after a few backflip jumps/spasms. So never mind, 700 fps should do plenty great for those damned tree rats. Probably a better choice, except the projectile grain I think is a little smaller. Still should be able to make clean kills. I'm leaving it there just in case anyone else has any opinions on air rifles.

The .22 pellets I shoot the most are the common 14 grain pellets. That's only 6 grains down from the Colibris. My two .22 pellet rifles are rated at 600 fps and 800 fps muzzle velocity. Actual numbers are a bit lower on the chronometer at around 8% loss if I remember correctly.

Looking at Muzzle Energy Calculator, my 800 fps rifle (estimated 730 fps actual) has more juice than a Super Colibri. http://www.pyramydair.com/article/What_is_Muzzle_Energy_August_2003/5

Both my .22 pellet rifles crack open squirrel size skulls with ease. The springer is more impressive when it connects, it's just harder for me to connect since the piston is accelerating then slamming to a halt during the shot.

 

[bikerdoc]

It makes me mad that I cant ship ammo USPS. Fedex charges 8 bucks for shipping a 6 dollar box. Rediculous.

 

[alientrainwreck]

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Anyone have any ides if they discontinued them and why?
Those are the only rounds silent enough for me to hunt the damned tree rats in my backyard. I wouldn't trust the standard colibri to make clean kills. Or has anyone been successful with that?

If I ever see them again I'm gonna buy as much as I can. Anyone know any alternative?
CCI quiets are overkill, and still make noise. CB shorts make the same amount of noise as CCI Quiet... Colibri are perfect in noise but I don't think they're powerful enough to take out big squirrels. I also noticed they're very inaccurate out of my rifle and have very limited range. Why doesn't anyone else make powderless .22 rounds?[/QUOTE]
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[alientrainwreck]

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[Hoppes Love Potion]

I have seen Super Colibris at gun shows. I don't see any on the largest auction site, but there is plenty of the regular Colibri. Maybe they HAVE stopped making the Super.

 

[SeanSw]

My stash of colibiris ran out ages ago and I'm pretty sure that they were more quiet from my S&W 617 than my .117 spring rifle. They didn't do me much good when both were equally illegal to discharge in city limits, or that the more quiet option looks like 6" of blazing steel compared to a nuclear orange air rifle.