Diffs in ammo brands?
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NIGHTLORD40K
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Yes.
Yes.
S&B 9mm very reliably fails to chamber 2-5 rounds out of a 50 round box in my Ruger 9mm firearms. Don't have that problem with any other brand of ammo. I will still buy S&B, but I don't shoot it in my Rugers.
I've noticed very different odors from the different propellants in different ammunition. Nothing so dramatic that I made a mental note of brands I would avoid because of it.
I used to shoot a good deal of .357Mag ammo and noticed that the PMC ammo was much cleaner (left much less fouling on the gun) than the Federal ammo I could get at the time.
S&B 9mm very reliably fails to chamber 2-5 rounds out of a 50 round box in my Ruger 9mm firearms. Don't have that problem with any other brand of ammo. I will still buy S&B, but I don't shoot it in my Rugers.
I've noticed very different odors from the different propellants in different ammunition. Nothing so dramatic that I made a mental note of brands I would avoid because of it.
I used to shoot a good deal of .357Mag ammo and noticed that the PMC ammo was much cleaner (left much less fouling on the gun) than the Federal ammo I could get at the time.
unspellable
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Winchester 22LR has a thicker rim than others. Makes it impossible to load in my latest Ruger. I consider this the fault if the Ruger magazine rather than the ammo.
Ks5shooter
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Yep that's why I have always loaded my own.
Riomouse911
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Centerfire; some. But not a huge difference when comparing similar ammo to each other (say 115 gr fmj 9mm for example).
Rimfire; TONS! I shoot enough to find that even batches of the sane brand/bullet style will sometimes vary enough to affect functioning in revolvers and autos (not just a change in POI or accuracy).
Today 350 rounds of CCI Blazer and Norma TAC-22 target went through the Ruger MkIV with zero hiccups. Aguila 36 gr HP? Constant failures to load with all three magazines I brought.
Stay safe.
Rimfire; TONS! I shoot enough to find that even batches of the sane brand/bullet style will sometimes vary enough to affect functioning in revolvers and autos (not just a change in POI or accuracy).
Today 350 rounds of CCI Blazer and Norma TAC-22 target went through the Ruger MkIV with zero hiccups. Aguila 36 gr HP? Constant failures to load with all three magazines I brought.
Stay safe.
In center fire there is some, ranging from barely noticeable to quite a bit depending on caliber
I rim fire, the differences are huge. You can easily see the difference on target...even between different lines within the same manufacturer
halfmoonclip
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The primer shortage has changed my view; currently, it makes more sense to buy 9mm.
I haven't always clocked factory ammo, but did notice the different recoil impulse between WWB and Blazer Brass in a P365. The WWB had a rap to it that Blazers did not. The Blazers clocked about the same as my standard reloads (1100'sec) while the Winnies were 50-75'sec warmer.
NATO spec 9s have a rep for being up in 9+ territory.
With lots of folks doing what I'm doing, for the same reason, there's all sorts of 9s out there right now.
Moon
Jim Watson
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Yes. A friend said some Fiocchi 9mm would not cycle his Glock although it would his Canik.
I chronographed it to find a lower average velocity than most others and a lot wider spread, so the low end under a low average was very soft, not even making Minor power factor.
I chronographed it to find a lower average velocity than most others and a lot wider spread, so the low end under a low average was very soft, not even making Minor power factor.
unspellable
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Winchester claims 1230 fps from a 4.5 inch barrel for their 30 Luger. When I fire it from 4, 4.5, 5, & 6 inch barrels not a single round makes 1230 fps from any barrel length, let alone the average. Ejection is correspondingly weak. This from several Lugers and a Ruger P89. As a side note, the velocity keeps increasing as the barrel is longer. Another side note: DWM's spec from way back when was 1230 fps from a 4.5 inch barrel.
CapnMac
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Yes. And within a given brand as well.
Further a given firearm may "like," even "prefer" one brand over another. And the same firearm from earlier or later in production be different, too.
Old Dog
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What everyone else is saying.
Heck, yes. Rifle shooters have known this for years.
For handguns, especially in the 9mm caliber, with the myriad of brands, weights, velocities, bullet design.
But, you also have to track what you're shooting in each gun, and what your results are.
Some guns are fine with cheap ammo. Some guns are not. What @CapnMac said.
Heck, yes. Rifle shooters have known this for years.
For handguns, especially in the 9mm caliber, with the myriad of brands, weights, velocities, bullet design.
But, you also have to track what you're shooting in each gun, and what your results are.
Some guns are fine with cheap ammo. Some guns are not. What @CapnMac said.
wanderinwalker
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Not even just brand to brand, but even within the different product lines in the same brand.
As a recent example, I bought a 500-round box of Federal Champion 115gr FMJ 9mm Luger ammunition. It was bulk packaged in a plastic bag inside a cardboard box. The recoil impulse in my 9mm AR was inconsistent, as was the ejection. It worked in my Walther PDP, but exhibited anemic ejection. Switch to CCI Blazer 124gr FMJ 9mm and ejection was consistent in both gun, and the recoil impulse was consistent in the rifle.
Back in the 2014-ish time frame, I picked up a 5.56mm M-4gery and used a few hundred different rounds of factory ammo to vet it before switching to reloads. I got a batch of some kind of cheap, generic Federal 55gr FMJ .223 Remington ammo that was so inaccurate I thought I had forgotten how to shoot a rifle. Same rifle running some Independence 55gr FMJ 5.56mm shoots around 2-MOA for however many rounds I feel like putting in the group.
Generally the higher priced stuff will be more consistent than the lower-tier stuff. Better consistency and quality control costs money.
Pat Riot
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Yes, for sure.
I have seen different ammunition brands that are loaded similarly, like same bullet weights and similar velocities but one might shoot great with good accuracy while another with nearly the same specs is terrible for accuracy and consistency.
I have seen different ammunition brands that are loaded similarly, like same bullet weights and similar velocities but one might shoot great with good accuracy while another with nearly the same specs is terrible for accuracy and consistency.
Jim Watson
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Ammo of the same SKU can differ with time as tooling wears and new suppliers bid in different powder and primers.
Bazoo
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I have some Remington 22 Golden Bullets that had some with thicker rims. Just enough that they would hang up my Single Six. I ended up sorting a whole bucket, using the cylinder as a case gauge. I found only about 30 out of the whole 1400 round bucket that was proud, and they ran just fine through the Marlin model 60 I had at the time.
