Disruptions to powder supply - AP70N
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Another smaller version WITH self-closing doors and all rabbeted joints using screws, not glued. The reason for rabbeted joints using screws and not glue, IS to let the pressure out. Sudden pressure will lift the doors open, but they reclose to discourage flames.
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NFPA may or may not be adopted by the authorities. Florida has a limit in state law for powder; it is above 100 lbs. I think it is 125 or 150; must be in a wooden box with "nominal" 1" thickness. (I added 1/2" plywood to a 1/2" footlocker). I think I decided that Florida's primer limit might be 10,000 per structure. I'm not sure on that.
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Dudedog
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My fault I sidetracked my own thread commenting on the three year supply and Acrobat(which is way off topic).
Hopefully I did not upset anyone there.
I do appreciate the info on the side track however.
I should probably check for powder storage threads or start a new one.
If AP70N is Universal that might mean that possibly we will see some more Universal soon as the supply of it seemed to dry up before some other powders IMO. I don't know what % of the pistol/shotgun market Universal had but say if it was 5% (a number I just made up) then other powders for the same apps have to cover that 5%. However I believe it is just a case of demand outstripping supply right now in reloading components.
I headed this way because someone else was looking for load data for AS30N, AP50N, AP70N and AP100N and had I had heard that Hodgdon imported ADI AP70N as one of their powders (and possibly others) and I got sidetracked on it because I found the topic interesting.
I know finding the best powder is one of the benefits of reloading, I just find it frustrating to have to change when I had something I liked and worked well for me in the 4 pistol calibers that I load.
I enjoy reloading but I enjoy shooting too, and the supply issue is a pain.
BTW nice looking storage box 1SOW.
Dad was in the Army for 30 years (Korea, 3 tours in Vietnam) so I happen to have some footlockers.
Hopefully I did not upset anyone there.
I do appreciate the info on the side track however.
I should probably check for powder storage threads or start a new one.
If AP70N is Universal that might mean that possibly we will see some more Universal soon as the supply of it seemed to dry up before some other powders IMO. I don't know what % of the pistol/shotgun market Universal had but say if it was 5% (a number I just made up) then other powders for the same apps have to cover that 5%. However I believe it is just a case of demand outstripping supply right now in reloading components.
I headed this way because someone else was looking for load data for AS30N, AP50N, AP70N and AP100N and had I had heard that Hodgdon imported ADI AP70N as one of their powders (and possibly others) and I got sidetracked on it because I found the topic interesting.
I know finding the best powder is one of the benefits of reloading, I just find it frustrating to have to change when I had something I liked and worked well for me in the 4 pistol calibers that I load.
I enjoy reloading but I enjoy shooting too, and the supply issue is a pain.
BTW nice looking storage box 1SOW.
Dad was in the Army for 30 years (Korea, 3 tours in Vietnam) so I happen to have some footlockers.
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dickttx
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Has anyone ever bought AP70N in the US?
Probably not, so no problem. Just buy Universal.
Probably not, so no problem. Just buy Universal.
ReloaderFred
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It really doesn't matter what kind of wood your box (if you choose to build one) is made from. The idea of the wood is it chars as heat is applied, and the resulting char has an insulating effect. Wood doesn't transfer heat like metal does, so it slows down how fast the contents get hot enough to burn.
You may also want to watch this video: http://youtu.be/3SlOXowwC4c
It dispels some of the hype about ammunition and fire.
Hope this helps.
Fred
You may also want to watch this video: http://youtu.be/3SlOXowwC4c
It dispels some of the hype about ammunition and fire.
Hope this helps.
Fred
My house is concrete block but has drywall interior. I consider it a big box. They use drywall to fireproof safes,
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Dudedog
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I have seen the video before, and think its great. Sad to see all that ammo burned! (but for a good cause) Most of my supplies are stored in a locked shed seperate from the house (my reloading shed)so the odds are the house could burn down and the shed would be fine. I have always wondered about storing ammo in military metal ammo cans. They seem like they would allow pressure to build to a fairly high level before something failed, but I am guessing that maybe the US Military knows what it is doing. I think maybe I will start a thread on this and see what others think.
)so the odds are the house could burn down and the shed would be fine. I have always wondered about storing ammo in military metal ammo cans. They seem like they would allow pressure to build to a fairly high level before something failed, but I am guessing that maybe the US Military knows what it is doing. I think maybe I will start a thread on this and see what others think.coonan1911
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Hi
Just made a comment about this under POWDER SHORTAGE ( MarchBoom 703 )
Hodgdon Material Safety Data Sheet April 2009 maybe interesting???
Regards
coonan1911
Just made a comment about this under POWDER SHORTAGE ( MarchBoom 703 )
Hodgdon Material Safety Data Sheet April 2009 maybe interesting???
Regards
coonan1911
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Lots of good info in this thread.
Special thanks to Walkalong and 1SOW for the pics....something to think about.
My father was a carpenter by trade, but I did not inherit the woodworking gene (however, I somehow ended up with a pretty good aptitude for all things mechanical...perhaps mom and the milkman...never mind. And yes, I am that old).
Ahem...anyhow...perhaps one or more of you woodworking genii could market the plans, or cut the parts and sell a ready-to-assemble kit?
You would have at least one customer right here. I can screw it together and stain it.
And I'd bet I'm not the only one.
Hey, could be a good source of supplemental income. Who wouldn't welcome that?
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Special thanks to Walkalong and 1SOW for the pics....something to think about.
My father was a carpenter by trade, but I did not inherit the woodworking gene (however, I somehow ended up with a pretty good aptitude for all things mechanical...perhaps mom and the milkman...never mind. And yes, I am that old).
Ahem...anyhow...perhaps one or more of you woodworking genii could market the plans, or cut the parts and sell a ready-to-assemble kit?
You would have at least one customer right here. I can screw it together and stain it.
And I'd bet I'm not the only one.
Hey, could be a good source of supplemental income. Who wouldn't welcome that?
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You can probably do it yourself. If you wish to store powder, I stronlgy suggest using 1" plywood and don't make it too big -- it will be heavy heavy heavy.
Hinges on the back, padlock hasp on the front, don't get to fancy.
Alternate is to go to an army navy store, buy surplus one, and face the sides with additional plywood. That is what I did.
Hinges on the back, padlock hasp on the front, don't get to fancy.
Alternate is to go to an army navy store, buy surplus one, and face the sides with additional plywood. That is what I did.
dickttx
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I had purchased several of the wooden military footlockers at estate sales for $5 each. Regrettably, when we moved recently I had to put them in our estate sale. Probably got less than that for them.
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