sig87
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Chambered Sig P6
Well, he really claimed that his training was in medical school (see his post #183). That jibes with the $100k. However, it really doesn't qualify him to opine on the topic under discussion. Nonetheless, I saw no reason to encourage him in that regards. Note that he also refers to me as a "trained killer."CombatArmsUSAF said:...I knew Evela was full of BS as soon as he said he spent $100,000 on training....
Evela in post 183 said:...Med school, and like 98% of the common carriers reading this now, I have NOT been trained by your name dropped buddies. But you may be interested to know that Massad - I don't know about your buddy "Etc.", lol - is very clear on the effects of panic and stress for most of us, including you my trained killer pal. All of which I learned well at a fine research university....
A man not confident enough in his ability to carry a chamber-loaded semiautomatic pistol is better served with a revolver. Operating the slide before firing is a complex psycho-motor skill of the kind that does not survive stress well, and it's normally a two-handed operation. The history of gunfighting shows us at least half the time, we will fire our handgun one-handed when attacked by surprise. The gun must be in a condition that allows one-handed operation.
Posted by Evela in post 183
"Wait...so you're saying that because law enforcement are more trained than we are AND carry one in the pipe, we who are not as trained should not carry one in the pipe...what?"
That's exactly right. LE is trained to carry professionally and are better equipped to take the risks. Most CCW users have never been in a firefight, and will suffer much more stress. Fine motor skills are the first to go. Read Ayoob for details.
LOL, Boba, good find. But frankly there is no need to call names when his arguments are (now at least) so clearly shown to be wrong. It actually kinds takes away from what you're saying when you make it so personal.
Remember that Evela has been claiming that racking the slide a la Israeli draw is a gross motor skill (and we've seen the Massad Ayoob disagrees). But look at the video. The guy is fast enough (he's an instructor -- he should be), but it looks pretty tricky to me.Evela in post #230 said:...Link to Summit Training (Texas, New Mexico, San Francisco)
Be sure to check out the imbedded video ...
Now meeting the moving gun and grabbing the rear cocking serrations between the thumb and index finger of the weak hand look rather more like a fine motor maneuver than a gross motor action. No doubt one can learn to do it quickly, reflexively and consistently, but I think it would take a lot of practice to get to that point.
This shoot, er, write first/think later poster makes the usual mistake of thinking the racking is additional step. It's not. I suggest you go back a page or two and you'll understand why.