Do you feel products like this can cast a negative or violent image of gun owners?

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I say put on what you want. It does not matter, they are trying to paint a narrative.
Painters got to paint. They will just find some thing else to scare the masses with.

The biggest image problem I see.
Anti gunners have and use the mass media to spread their lies.

Pro gunners just talk in pro gun areas. Sort of like preaching to the choir.
 
It's not for me but I'm glad I could get one if I wanted it. As for the anti gun crowd or anybody else who cares what they think about it.
 
In my mind, it sends about the same message as tattooing 666 or a swastika on your forehead....

Pleased to meet you, sorry, but the job opening has been recently filled.
 
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The striking thing is that someone has run the price up 5 times what a standard lower is going for.
Cool but not that cool.
 
Yes. I think the various assault weapons bans have proven that there are plenty of people that care more about what a gun looks like than what it can do.
 
I agree with GN on this. If you paint a picture of a puppy or a cute kitty on your gun then someone will take offense. That's just the way it is.
 
MartinS said:
Does anyone think that if we all be very, very quiet people will forget that guns are by nature violent and brutal objects?
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Seriously? Seriously? Guns are by nature inanimate bunches of metal, plastic and/or wood. Ridiculous statement on this forum.

As for the original item being discussed, my personal opinion is that it's pretty juvenile.
 
I gotta agree with most of the posts, I wouldn't want it as exhibit in my shooting review, however, if that is the only stick they can find to hit me with I guess I will have done ok. I think it would be like most items, if it is displayed in the right crowd no problem.
 
jrdolall post #7 and Sam1911 post #20 summarizes my key points. And contrary to some comments there are common and enjoyable uses of a firearm that does not involve killing or training to kill.

Personally I could go for a lower with the mag well molded like a dragons head with the dragon painted in Ceracoat in green paint like lizard scales and the tongue colored in red. I'd name it "Puff the Magic Dragon" after the song by Peter, Paul and Mary.

Life is too short not to have some fun.
 
^^^ Hmmm, BSA's comment strikes a thought. Maybe some enterprising company can come up with a clip on ornament (figurehead) that fits on the magwell ARs. Skull, dragon, ships figurehead, IronMan, Bozo the clown ... whatever floats your boat. And best of all, interchangeable, to suit your mood and social occasion.

Seriously, if there's a market for those AR-15 magazine wraparounds, theres gotta be a market for lower receiver clip on ornamentation :evil: Magpul?
 
Negative? No.
Violent? No.
Pointless way to ruin the appearance of an AR? I think so, but who cares, I'm just an old-fashioned grouch.:)

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I don't really care one way or another. I don't think it's going to make much of a difference, if any, for those who already oppose the RKBA. Frankly, I wouldn't care if it did. This fight isn't going to suddenly be won or lost. It's going to drag out like this for decades and slowly shift to one extreme or the other.
 
I'm in the "antis will hate it cause it's a gun" camp. I think most gun owners will think it's cool or laugh at it. Personally I lean more towards laughing.

About image? I only worry about the people on the fence about guns. I figure that most will realize that that receiver is just a bit of bling to make a rifle subjectively cooler. The rest are probably anti-fun and just don't want to admit it.
 
First of all, much like when carrying kinda sorta concealed, people are self absorbed, I doubt anyone would even notice on a complete rifles.

Second, antis already hate us and want to take our guns away, whether they have Hello Kitty on them or that stupid thing. As such, I don't give a crap what they think.
 
Yes, it does cast a bad image.

You could go to work wearing nothing but your underwear and a tee shirt too. Technically you're "covered" but still you are outside the bounds of acceptable, and people will respond negatively. And, unlike the post above, I DO give a darn what others think.
 

Personally I don't like anything that trivializes what a gun is for.
But what's a gun "FOR?"

Maybe what I wrote was too much of a shortcut from what I was thinking. I feel when a gun owner makes jokes about killing people it creates a perception that the person can hardly wait to actually kill someone with his or her gun, i.e. does not recognize the seriousness of taking a life. Having part of one's gun sculptured as a skull looks like the owner loves the idea of turning the head of a living human being into a skull. So, yes, I think it creates a negative image of gun owners.
 
SSN Vet said:
In my mind, it sends about the same message as tattooing 666 or a swastika on your forehead....

Pleased to meet you, sorry, but the job opening has been recently filled.
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Lol, interesting job interview if it were the SKULL on the rifle that put you off.

"Oh, ok, an ar15, that's a gutsy move, but it shows initiative, go on...."

"Hmm that ar15 has a skull on it! Who does this guy think he is? Some sort of satanic nazi?"

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old lady new shooter said:
Having part of one's gun sculptured as a skull looks like the owner loves the idea of turning the head of a living human being into a skull.
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Or it could be viewed as a modern take on the tradition of vanitas imagery.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanitas

Or it could be interpreted as the owner wanting to remind themselves of the danger so they will make greater safety efforts (like a poison warning label).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazard_symbol

Or a Memento Mori, fitting together with the ironic "Do you want to live forever?" BTW: you should Google "puritan tombstones" sometime ... Skulls with wings and similar were common.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_mori

Or as a sort of celebrating-what-you-fear ritualization in the spirit of the Mexican tradition of painting skeletons on things

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_art

...and holding annual day of the dead celebrations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_the_dead


I can't say there is no chance your interpretation is correct, but I don't think there is a good chance that the meaning is what you say. There is just too much history behind that symbology in human cultures.
 
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